At 12:09 AM 5/25/03 -0700, you wrote: >It is considered conventional wisdom that the ear cannot hear frequencies >above and below a certain point, but that the existence of sound in those >frequencies has an audible effect on what we can. Two examples are called >intermodulation and harmonics. > >Modulation can be used by piano tuners, they play two notes simultaneously, >and since the notes are tuned so closely (but not perfectly) they modulate >against each other, and by counting the modulations an experienced tuner can >tell exactly how far to adjust the string. > >Two different notes widely separated will produce sum and difference >frequencies, and these can be even order or odd order harmonics. People who >use old tube amplifiers, particularly electric guitar players, prize the >tube sound because it is primarily even order, which is considered pleasing >to the ear (within reason) as opposed to odd harmonics. > >When cds first came out, a mental institution noticed that digital music did >not relax the patients anymore and they had to restore an all analog system. >(this was reported in the Syd-Aud-Con journal which is distributed to audio >and electro-acoustic engineers.) > >Does anyone know what optical manifestations of this phenomena are? there >must be a reason why Leitz lenses cost so much! > >tom Robinson > > > I liken this debate to the one that went on in the audio world some > > years ago. Studies showed that the human ear is not capable of hearing > > differentials more than 8 bits. They also showed the human ear is not > > capable of hearing frequencies below X and above Y ( forgive me I don't > > remember X and Y and their values aren't important). > > > > This experiment was repeated many times with the same results. However, > > if you filter music so that no energy from frequencies below X and above > > Y appear and run a test to determine if people can hear the difference, > > they sure can. If you run test todetermine if people can tell the > > difference between complex music sampled at 8 bits vs. 12 bits, they > > sure can. In fact music sampled at 8 bits and limited to frequencies > > above X and below Y sounds pretty "hollow." It gets to the fidelity of > > the reporduction. > > > > I think the same is probably as true for the eye as is for the ear. > > While humans are not suppose to be able to see beyoun 300 dpi, I would > > expect in a complex image they sure can tell the difference if it were > > printed at 300 or 360 or maybe even 720. > > > > I always down sample to 720 and print from there. When I listen to Kenny G. here at The Home I get very irritated. Now I know why. I'll probably get slammed on this, but wasn't the "beat frequency" thing part of the explanation for metamerism? Sort of? AZ Build a Lookaround! The Lookaround Book. http://www.panoramacamera.us
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Re: [Digital BW] Subject: Re: 360 dpi versus 300 dpi?
2003-05-25 by Alan Zinn
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