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Re: Which B&W system/too broad I know

2003-05-27 by John/Julie Gittins

Kirk,
Just tried your suggestion for neutral B&W with the Epson 2200 driver 
(your option 2 below). As you said, to expect that using the driver's 
'PhotoEnhance' setting could result in prints "that look as if they were 
done on cold-tone paper & toned in a dilute selenium solution for archival 
preservation i.e., a very slight warming of the upper zones)" seems 
pretty crazy. But like you, this is just what I found. I like these prints
as well as the best prints of the same images that I've been able to get 
from my 1160 with FSN ink and Randall method.
I used Eclipse paper and converted the image to RGB before printing (no 
additional changes to the image).
Other settings used:
  - main driver panel: paper='EEM', ink='Color', mode='Custom'
  - driver 'custom' panel: print quality='1440', high-speed='off',
       color mgmt='PhotoEnhance4', tone='monochrome', sharpness='none'
  - print panel: space='RGB', PrinterColorMgmt-switch='on'

Thanks very much for this very useful tip.
John 
                        

Original Message ----- 
  From: Kirk Thompson 
  To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2003 6:36 PM
  Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Which B&W system/too broad I know


  I'm addressing the frustrated person who wrote to say that he or 
  she found quadtone printing too complex.

  1.  In the Feb-Mar issue of Camera Arts, George De Wolfe said 
  that the Epson RIP software for the 2200 produces results very 
  close to quadtone.  This is a cheap alternative to more advanced 
  RIP systems. I tried it & found that it produces interesting prints 
  that are not neutral, but look as if they were richly selenium 
  toned.  

  2.  A more neutral result can be obtained by using the 
  Photo-Enhanced setting for the regular 2200 driver.  When I first 
  read about this, I dismissed it as it as a crackpot idea - use a 
  distorted color setting to make neutral BW prints?  But it does 
  indeed work, & produces prints that look as if they were printed 
  on cold-tone paper & toned in a dilute selenium solution for 
  archival preservation (i.e., a very slight warming of the upper 
  zones).  

  These are two options for those who don't choose a quadtone 
  system.  While quadtone prints might achieve another increment 
  of excellence, these options look better than all but the best 
  printers can produce in a darkroom.   




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