Digital BW, The Print

Robert,

I really didn't want to start a shooting match with my question. I just
wanted to know if the gains in print quality were significant enough to
justify the cost and work involved in a cross platform network. If the
benefits are there, I'm game myself. For anyone already on a Mac it would be
a natural to try out.

I agree with both you and Tyler on the RGB separation curve methods. I think
that you can get really top quality prints with those workflows but that it
is often an up hill battle in terms of achieving smooth tone ramps. Overall
I feel the Piezo/R9 plug-in has been more satisfying to work with and I
would expect that grayscale ink workflows that address the printer directly
rather than through the Epson driver are the preferred way to go.

Martin


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Robert Morrison" <rmorrison@...>
To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 11:36 PM
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Re: IJC on w2k ...older macs on PC network???


> On 6/4/03 11:09 PM, "Tyler Boley" <tyler@...> wrote:
>
> > You're talking features. Martin specifically asked about print quality.
>
> >> Completely smooth breakless curves.
>
> This is not something I've gotten from the Piezo driver since the move to
> Piezotone inks. Prior to that move the quality of the profiles was all
over
> the place with the old inks.  Many other papers...including some of my
> favorites were not supported.  The results using other profiles were
simply
> not acceptable.  My screen match is flawless...that makes a big difference
> in final output...allowing very, very fine tuning of hilight and shadow
> detail.
>
> Speaking of print quality...try to imagine a piezo print with a 2.5 dmax!
> I'm looking at prints just like that now from my 2200...certainly not
> somewhere I could get with the Piezo driver.  Likewise partitioned work
> flows with the 1280 using the Ultratones appear to give a much poorer dmax
> on RC papers because of 1280 inflow restrictions.  Driving the 2200 with
> single channel control turns out to the ultimate solution for print
quality.
>
> All of the things I just described are "print quality" issues for me.
>
> > I have a report of lack of ability to print a sharp edge at the image
> > border and an overall softness with IJC.
>
> Certainly not what I've seen.  Was the report...your testing or someone
> else's?
>
> > Another question.
> > More on topic, why would anyone go out and get an entire new computer,
> > install an operationg system quickly becoming obsolete, instead of
> > simply waiting for a version for for the platform they already own?
> > Another question.
>
> That is perhaps a good question...although for me having a separate print
> server is an incredibly valuable thing...just like having a dedicated
> machine for scanning. It makes organizing my workflow much simpilier.
> Admittedly, I wouldn't buy a machine that wasn't capable of running OSX at
> this point...but IJC is working flawlessly for me on my print server
running
> OS9...however, its my understanding that the OSX version is coming soon.
>
> > Although I don't use them, if someone is making perfectly beautiful
> > prints with RGB curves, why is it non-sense?
>
> Because it is convoluted workflow that makes fine tuning very difficult in
> comparison to what they could be doing with Ink Jet Control. Partitioned
> workflows had their time and place in the development of digital
> printing...but in my opinion that time and place is gone...but of course
> that is just my opinion...to each his/her own.  I know using a partitioned
> workflow would be nonsense for me. What we are talking about here is the
> ability to have fine control.  This is critical for print quality.
>
> Robert
>
>
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