Digital BW, The Print

Hello, after reading this list it really looks like an 8bit workflow 
is "enough" for a desktop printer (like the 860/1160). Are you using a 
printer like this ones?

I still do not quite understand why the Piezo people put some effort 
in delivering a 16 bit driver for printers like the ones obove.

Comments are pretty much appreciated,
 Rodrigo
  
--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., Jerry Olson 
<jerryolson@r...> wrote:
> Jim Do try the VM inks and Paul Roark's curves. Absolutely no dots 
and
> no banding.
> 
> Jerry
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Jim Hayes wrote:
> > 
> > A caution: I had a problem with Piezo inks. I no longer think they 
are
> > viable for longterm use in 1160. Hate to say that, that's just my
> > experience. My experience with MIS inks is new, so they are to be
> > taken as my initial impressions only.
> > 
> > After a year with Piezo inks, I'm discontinuing them. I can't 
clear my
> > printer fully of what is now called "Hayes Syndrome" on the Piezo
> > list. When I compare MIS Full Spectrum inks set up on a spare 1160
> > with the Piezo prints from my old clogging up with Piezo printer, 
the
> > Piezo inks definetly have a green tinge, and remnants of the other
> > symptoms.
> > 
> > I very much like the tone of these  FS MIS inks, a bit warm but 
nice,
> > not sickly.
> > 
> > Until this problem is solved (and Cone says he IS working on it) 
I'm
> > not going back. I really don't mean to badmouth his setup<sigh>.
> > 
> > OTOH I find that even using John Woolf's workflow, when I examine
> > prints done with Epson driver ("error diffusion" setting") vs 
Piezo
> > driver with MIS FS inks, I can see dots in highlights and I get 
very
> > tiny tiny microbanding with Epson driver/Woolf workflow....but the
> > Piezo driver is smooth. This is counter-intuitive for 
microbanding,
> > but there it is. Please note that I only see the highlight dots 
and
> > microbanding when using my CRI 98 Ott-lite and viewing from 1 foot
> > away. I don't know why, but viewed under typical tungsten lighting 
of
> > varying intensity, I can't see the dots/banding at all.
> > 
> > The piezo driver seems  (still some uncertainy)to print a bit
> > contratier than the Epson. In this case for some photos, I wonder 
if
> > the Epson driver still might be better, if a textured paper was 
used.
> > S. E. photo textured paper seems to "almost" hide the microbanding
> > even when I put the Ott-lite up real close.
> > 
> > I am curious if I have the settings wrong for the Woolf workflow. 
His
> > screen shot of settings did not match my driver dialogue choices, 
so I
> > e-mailed him as to the discrepancies (i.e. "Halftone" setting not
> > availabe, J.W.---->use "error diffusion" instead).
> > 
> > So, if I can swing it, I'll be using the Piezo driver with MIS FS
> > inkset. I am going to conduct my usual fade testing of some papers
> > profiled by Cone in this manner, as some on the Piezo list are 
aware I
> > already do.
> > Jim H.
> > 
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