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Re: [Digital BW] Ilford Smooth Glossy

2003-06-23 by Jack M Kucy

Any kind of oil is acidic, so it will ruin the print pretty soon.  It 
must be another solution.
After years of wet printing one knows that the archival wax helps 
saturate blacks.
It should work as well on the digital prints.
Jack

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Ernst Dinkla wrote:

>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Paul Roark" <paul.roark@...>
> To: "DigitalB&WPrint"
> <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 8:49 AM
> Subject: [Digital BW] Ilford Smooth Glossy
>
>
> > I'm not sure RC paper have made the grade yet, but I like the
> surface and
> > price of the Ilford Smooth gloss and pearl papers.  They do
> seem to have a
> > few defects with Ultra Tone inks, however.
> >
> > First, there does seem to be a little "dusting" in the deep
> shadows.  I was
> > curious if this was the paper or the UT pigs.  So, I mixed a UT
> inkset with
> > Epson UC coated pigs.  When used with Epson Photo K in the
> black cart, the
> > dusting completely disappeared.
> >
> > The 100% black still has a different look, but it is much
> closer.  All thing
> > considered, the image looked excellent.
> >
> > I left the UT toner as is, and there does not seem to be enough
> pigment in
> > that to make a difference.  I'm suspicious that the light gray
> is also so
> > weak that it could remain the stock MIS UT light gray.  So,
> I'll mix a batch
> > with just a cyan (quad) position ink the Epson mix and see if
> that gets rid
> > of the dusting.  That would be easy for us or MIS to mix if it
> cures the
> > dusting problems -- with the Epson Photo K.
> >
> > I also noticed that this paper (perhaps like all RC papers)
> shows
> > fingerprints badly on the 100% black spot.  Interestingly,
> however, the
> > fingerprints even look deeper black.  So, I decided to rub my
> finger across
> > my face to get it extra oily.  Then I rubbed it on the 100%
> patch.  The dmax
> > leapt from about 2.05 to 2.6.  Whoa.
> >
> > I did the same thing to an old Ilford Smooth Glossy test strip
> where the
> > black looked a bit veiled, even though it read about 1.8.
> Again, the dmax
> > leapt to 2.6, and the veiling disappeared.  The depth of black
> was just
> > amazing.
> >
> > I'm not sure what is going on here, but it makes me wonder if
> some easy
> > surface treatment could give spectacular results.  Perhaps
> there is a
> > residue on the surface that can easily be cleaned off with a
> cloth lightly
> > dampened with ... ?? oil??
> >
> > Paul
> > http://www.PaulRoark.com
>
> So changing from Eboni to Epson Photo Black isn't enough, the
> darker grey has to be replaced as well ?
>
> Did you try some wax too ?  It must be a better material than oil
> in the long run.
>
> Ernst
>
>





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