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RE: [Digital BW] Re: Myth: was Any New 2200 BW for PC's?

2003-07-28 by D. Hill

Oh, this is getting tedious.  BO printing is great. 
Quadtone printing is great.  Hextone printing is
great.  The piezo driver is great too, blah, blah,
blah...

There, I've said it.

Don


--- Matthew Carlisle <matthewcarlisle@...>
wrote:
> Can't we all just get along?  ;)
> 
> I'm willing to bet that there are many people that
> are 100% satisfied with
> BO printing, purely because they're not looking for
> critically perfect tonal
> range, they're not putting their work in museums,
> and they just want to
> print the occasional print in B&W without it looking
> crappy with color inks.
> After all, 99% of the population are entirely happy
> with $100 "boom boxes"
> that sound like crap, but they still enjoy the
> music.
> 
> For most of us on this forum BO printing doesn't
> come up to the standard we
> like, but that doesn't mean it's not OK for others
> that aren't as fussy as
> all of us (yes, I'm talking to you).
> 
> Your fellow B&W elitist,
> 
>    Matthew
>   Hello Matthew,
> 
>   >I never said you said you can't see dots.  I was
> just kidding around
>   - I think we need more of that on this forum.  :)
> 
>   Ok, point taken, and I agree.
> 
>   Some people have inferred from my remarks some
> things I didn't say, so
>   for the record:
> 
>   1) I have never said that BO is better than good
> quad/hex printing.
> 
>   2) I would like a dotless quad/hex solution as
> much as anyone.  I
>   agree that dotless printing has been and is a
> worthy goal.
> 
>   3) My advocacy of BO printing has been because it
> is a good interim
>   solution for:
> 
>   ..a) someone who has struggled unsuccessfully with
> quad/hex methods
>   and needs a "life raft".
> 
>   ..b) a newbie who is confused by all the options
> and needs time to
>   gain some experience and sort things out before
> investing a lot of
>   money in a system.
> 
>   4) The main reason I have been so vocal about it
> is that I feel that
>   BO has gotten a bum rap, and that it deserves to
> be accepted as one of
>   many available techniques so that people who may
> benefit from it do
>   not dismiss it out of hand.
> 
>   The reason I began this thread is that Peter's
> remark about BO being
>   contrasty is one which he has made before, some
> months ago, which
>   generated a very similar discussion.  I was
> dismayed that he would
>   want to beat this dead horse all over again. 
> Peter seems to be, as
>   Martin said, "compelled to attack it...harshly".
> 
>   Lastly, I don't know if keith's remark was
> directed at me, but I am
>   not on a "dots are beautiful campaign".  Lots of
> people read this
>   forum for information and I've received many
> emails from people who
>   thanked me for turning them on to BO printing. 
> Therefore I want to
>   continue to portray it in a positive light.  The
> prints have a unique
>   look about them which resembles Tri-X in a way,
> and a well done BO
>   print can be strikingly beautiful, with deep
> blacks, brilliant
>   highlights, and silvery midtones.  However, I am
> not in love with
>   dots.  If I could get the same intense beauty
> without the dots I'd be
>   happy as a clam.  One day the right system will
> come along and I'll
>   spring for it.  We keep getting closer.  My only
> "campaign" is for BO
>   printing to be accepted as one of many options.
> 
>   Regards, Clayton
> 
> 
>   Info on black and white digital printing at
>   http://www.cjcom.net/digiprnarts.htm
> 
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