Digital BW, The Print

Thanks Phil, that was helpful. I know for myself I'll get one when I can
afford one, for print size alone. That it also makes visibly better prints
is gravy, but it's also encouragement to have me afford it sooner. ;-)

Todd

> Todd,
> 
> Well that's like asking if something is a lot darker, or a little
> darker.  It's subjective, and you're asking me to make a statement
> based on what I think someone else's valuations might be.  Like I said,
> the difference at arm's length is less obvious than in close.
> Specifically in the areas of gradual tonal shifts, skies and clouds.
> There is a little more coarseness to the tones with the 1160. Banding
> is more prevalent with the 1160 than the 7000.  With the 7000 I pretty
> much have to look under a loupe to see it, and I can make it out from
> about 8" away with my 1160. Again, this is on EAM. There is likewise a
> small difference in the sharpness of the edges (I'm looking at
> sharpened images) and that may have to do with the firm paper grips and
> the suction platen the 7000 uses.  Less movement of the paper during
> printing and dead flat positioning.  The sharpness is something I only
> see substantially under a loupe, though, and that may make it
> irrelevant for most. Perhaps for you that means "teeny weeny bit."
> Don't know if this is helpful, but I can say it without feeling I'm
> misleading anyone.  I love the printer...
> 
> I think one should try to see some of the prints from the 7K before
> deciding on whether or not its appropriate for them. It's what I did.
> And cost is always an issue when one is making these types of choices.
> Furthermore, you have to factor in the ability to make those larger
> prints, even if you mostly print on 8x10 or 11x14.  I haven't met too
> many people who didn't like seeing their prints larger at least on
> occaision.  Bottom line, once again, what can you justify spending?
> That one is purely personal.
> 
> Cheers,
> Phil
> http://philbard.com
> 
>> 
>> I think what Martin was hoping from you guys (or I guess I was) was somewhat
>> less of a question of cost vs cost, but quality vs quality. Is there a way
>> to quantify how much better a 7000's print might look than an 1160's? Does
>> it look better? Teeny bit better, or way better?
>> 
>> My guess is that because the 7000s are built to a higher QC standard it's
>> output might not look all that much better than a great 1160's, like Bernds,
>> but you're less likely to get a bummer 7000, like Martin's 1200....
>> 
>> Todd