Digital BW, The Print

Marc,

>Like you, I preferred using the APX 25 in my traditional darkroom.

I concur, but the old-style reciprocity failure was a problem.  Also, by the
time a traditional (non-enhanced red sensitivity) 25 ISO film is heavily
filtered, even cloud movement becomes a problem.  I eventually switched to
Tmax 100, which, along with Neopan 100, can virtually match the APX 25
grain.

> I thought that all ISO25 B&W films (except TechPan) were history.
>Hence, your post re. Efke 25 is of much interest to me.

Some internet research I did a few days ago indicated some
production/quality issues.  For 120, among other things, one person
commented that light can often leak in around the paper.  So, film changing
in bright light can be a problem.

It's said to be an old-style, silver-rich formula.  For some purposes, this
could be very interesting.  While I acknowledge that there are some
advantages to the advanced-grain technologies, the old stuff had some
advantages also.

Paul
http://www.PaulRoark.com
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--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "dirkhobman"
<dhobman@h...> wrote:
> I have had mixed results with TechPan and personally preferred the
> old Agfa APX 25. I found it had much smoother tonality with
excellent
> grain characteristics. I still have some rolls of it, but in the
> meantime have found Efke R25 to be a fine alternative. I also tried
> Acros 100, and, like Paul, had unrealistic expectations (though its
> reciprocity characteristics make it outstanding for low
> light/nighttime photography). Efke R25 can be hard to find, but if
> you'd like to try it, you can buy it at the following site:
>
> www.jandcphoto.com
>
> Also, though I haven't tried it, Maco also produces an ISO 25 fine
> grain film that is panchromatic. You can find it for sale at:
>
> www.freestylephoto.biz
>
> Happy shooting!
>
> Dirk Hobman
>
>
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark"
> <paul.roark@v...> wrote:
> > Don,
> >
> > I agree, Fuji makes great films.  I think their color technology
> has the
> > best grain.  So, with luck this new c-41 film will be an
excellent
> addition
> > to our quiver.  My only disappointment with Acros 100 was that I
> wanted more
> > than just another excellent 100 ISO film.  My expectations were
> unrealistic.
> > Tech Pan still has a noticeable edge in image quality.
> >
> > Paul
> > http://www.PaulRoark.com
> > ___________________________________
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: D. Hill [mailto:hill14701@y...]
> > Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 7:44 AM
> > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: RE: [Digital BW] Re: TechXactol
> >
> >
> > Having been a loyal fan of Fuji films for the last 12
> > years or so - I thought they had reached an excellent
> > film with acros.
> >
> > Leafing through a magazine yesterday (Black and White)
> > I noticed that Neopan C41 will soon be released.  I
> > imagine it is modeled after xp-2 - but very exciting
> > news none the less.  As this was a European magazine,
> > one can only hold their breath as to wonder if it will
> > actually be released in the states.
> >
> > Don
> >
> > --- Paul Roark <paul.roark@v...> wrote:
> > > >>  So I'm going to see how Neopan 100 works.  It
> > > >> claims to have the finest grain of any 100 speed
> > > film.  We'll see.
> > > >
> > >
> > > I'm under-whelmed by my first Neopan test.  It's
> > > just another Tmax 100, as
> > > far as I can tell.  Not in the same league with Tech
> > > Pan.
> > >
> >
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