Many thanks for the response, I have a better sense of "dotless" and at this point with my 1280 and piezo plug-in, the prints do appear "dotless." When the new profiles are released what will the advantage be over the Pplug-in? pj piezobw <piezobw@...> wrote: --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "pjkealey" < pjkealey@y...> wrote: > can someone explain what "dotless" means. My black and white prints > using the piezo plug-in appears dotless until you get them under a > loupe then you can see dots or actually what appears more like old > fashion film grain. thanks Pj The following is a little dated now.... http://www.inkjetmall.com/store/compare-mis-piezo.html#sidebyside It shows side by side of one quad ink manufacturer's technique of printing their quad inks which was in use right prior to the release of PiezographyBW. You can see the big dots of the EPSON 3000 on one side and the "dotless" PiezographyBW version on the other side. When PiezographyBW plugin was first released there were not yet other popular methods of printing which produce dotless, or near dotless effects. This is not to say that others had not figured out how to do this. They just were not popularized at the time. The 3000 plugin product was especially good in this area, because the 3000 had a huge dot which was several times larger than current printers - so printing without (visible to the eye) dots was quite an attractive feature. We introduced it at PhotoPlus with magnifying glasses! The more recent plugin printers take advantage of the smaller dots available in the printers themselves, and many users which have both the 3000 and the 1280 for example, prefer the visual quality of the 3000 system. We first printed in a dotless manner with the ConeTech Digital Platinum for IRIS quad system which eliminated the visual dithering in the IRIS printers. We publically debuted that product two years prior to PiezographyBW at PhotoPlus with magnifying glasses and compared it to other IRIS prints. At that time, EPSON printers were not yet popular and we were developing on the much more expensive IRIS continuous drop technology platform. That product had been in development since mid-90s. Of course, IRIS went out of business years ago now. :( For the curious, it was a $125,000 inkjet printer which was the most popular at the time for photo-printing! A single nozzle (which could break at any time) cost more than an EPSON 2200 costs today! We have come a looooong way with much to be thankful for. And today of course, there are many, many methods and products which can hide dots! The good tricks are still done though, when it is done on the 3000 with its huge picolitre sized dots!! :) One more curious tid-bit.... IRIS printers could print 31 different variable sized dots of ink at any single location if driven properly. Today, some EPSON printers can print 3 different variable sized dots at any location. Inkjet printers of course whether IRIS or EPSON, print with dots of ink - so the concept is visual rather than mechanical. regards, Jon Cone Piezography Software and Inks Yahoo! Groups SponsorADVERTISEMENT Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, Bookmarks, Polls and other resources as they are often being updated. The page is at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same page. Please follow these basic guidelines: - Include your full name with your message. - Include the address of your website, if you have one. - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep them short. - As the topic of a thread changes remember to change the subject header. - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames - Complete your Yahoo profile. - Before posting a question, search the message archives and the various resources on the homepage. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: [Digital BW] Re: dotless
2003-09-14 by Patrick Kealey
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