Digital BW, The Print

Harvey, 

The whole art world is about "obfuscating!"

Glad you took the bait....was hoping the original thread would get some juices flowing somewhere.

You mention that Inkjet is both a tool and a process. I take it you think it is important to indicate the process so that the visitor is educated on how it was made.  By that logic, the little cards next to the various art in the museum should say: 

"Painting (that is the process...Duh!), Pig Bristle paint brush, oil, pigments, canvas"

"Chiseling, Sanding, Waxing, Chisel, Hammer, Marble, wax"

"Pressing, Oil based ink, paper, hydraulic press" 

"Drawing, Pencil, Graphite, Paper"

How about a Matisse:  "Scissors, Paper, (Rock) glue"  (grin)

Of course you may disagree.  We often do.  

I end by just saying that all should use their own judgement on what they want to call their prints.  Some may choose to identify it with the educational term of "Inkjet" while others may choose another moniker...I happen to like one based on the materials...that is Carbon Pigment Print....reminds me of "oil on canvas" or "watercolor."  Of course "Carbon Pigment Piezograph" is a more obfuscating way of putting it so it would probably "sell" more easily in a gallery if described by such a term.  Sounds more techy.

Have fun y'all, 

Steadman

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: SKID Photography 
  To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2001 4:50 PM
  Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Inkjet "Press" was Mark's Re: Gallery Rules


  Steadman Uhlich wrote:

  > <snip>I would not put Inkjet on my art description (and I don't care what the museums are doing...they don't
  > create art...they store it.

  So are you saying that you are using your labels to market, or to inform? (Museums use them to inform)

  <snip>

  > Finally, in contrast to some digital printers (people that is) I would not use the term "Inkjet" or "Inkjet
  > Print" anymore than I would describe a sculpture as:
  >
  >                    "Chisel, marble statue"
  >
  > Or a silver or platinum print as a:
  >
  >          "Beseler Enlarger, Silver Gelatin Print"
  >
  > Nor would I describe a painting on canvas as:
  >
  >           "Pigs Bristle Bright Brush, oil on canvas"
  >
  > What's the "tool" got to do with it?
  > (Said to the back beat score of a certain Tina Turner song.)

  'Inkjet printing/printer'....It's both a tool *and* a process

  > In my opinion, it is the materials used and those alone that warrant description.  The "process" or tools
  > have nothing to do with it.  In that frame of mind I would say describe my print as a "Carbon Pigment
  > Print."

  But what kind of print is that?....An etching, a silk-screen, a gravure......An inkjet print?

  > Of course fine art prints may be admired because they are "silver point" or "etching" or "rotogravure" or
  > what not.  That is the decision to showcase or market the method, not the materials.  In that case I would
  > call my print a "Carbon Pigment Piezograph."

  And why do museums 'market' a method?  The point is to educate and inform the viewer, by not stating the
  process, you are obfuscating the helpful information.

  Harvey Ferdschneider
  partner, SKID Photography, NYC


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