First off, this is the first time I've posted here, so hello to everyone. I'm just, finally, making the switch from film to digital, and an unexpected by-product of this shift is that I'm rediscovering my love of B&W in the digital domain. This certainly seems to be a great group for me to check out, and I assure you all that I'll be doing a number of searches through the archives to pick up tips, so I'll attempt to avoid asking at least some of the questions that have been asked numerous times before. Nonetheless, there's one question on my mind at the moment, and I thought I'd throw it out. I've been reading the news about the upcoming Epson 4000, and I've read that it's supposed to acheive a DMax of 2.1 on glossy media and 1.69 on matte media. Though I'm no expert on this subject yet, I've read that the 2200/7600/9600, with the Ultrachromes, acheive a DMax of 2.0 on glossy media and 1.69 on matte. Obviously, this suggests a higher DMax on glossy for the 4000. And, considering that my upcoming foray into digital B&W will involve a search for the best DMax, I find this interesting. (Though I don't know how a printer using the same inks/media is supposed to acheive a higher DMax on glossy media... maybe by mixing some Matte Black in with the Photo Black, since both inks will be available at once?) Obviously, I don't expect anyone to predict for me if the 4000 is going to do better in this regard than the 2200/7600/9600, but I was wondering if I could get a little input on the results people are getting with the Ultrachromes or with inks they've substituted for the Ultrachromes. I've read about the MIS inks and the Lyson inks, for example, and I'm trying to get a handle on what options provide the highest DMax and how those options compare with results I'm used to from the traditional, wet darkroom (though it's been a while since my B&W days). What I really need to do, I'm sure, is attempt to find opportunities to actually look at people's work that uses different inks and media. But, inasmuch as my decision to go digital is only a few weeks old, and considering that my renewed focus on B&W is only a few days old, I really find myself in need of some pointers in the right direction. Like I said, really great DMax is going to be a big focus of mine. Which I'm sure is not uncommon. But, anyway, I'm just wondering if you folks are satisfied with the DMax you're getting right now and what combination of inks & media have given the best results for superior DMax. I'm reluctant to admit my ignorance, but, though I used to get good results in the darkroom, and though I used zone system techniques in some of my B&W work, I don't really relate very well to DMax figures. I'm afraid to say that I don't really know how figures of 1.69 or 2.0 or 2.1 compare to the results I was getting, so they're really just abstract figures until I associate them with something visual. Even if I did once know DMax values for the blacks in some of my old B&W prints, I'm afraid that knowledge has erroded over the years. Anyway, sorry for rambling, and thanks for your patience. I'm pretty excited about my 'rediscovery' of B&W, so I'm sure you'll see me here more, and I really must find the time to make my way through much of the group's archives. Regards, Mike
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First post here, DMax question
2003-10-22 by Mike
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