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Re: [Digital BW] Ultra Tones & Dedicated B&W vs ImagePrint & 7-Color

2003-10-23 by Brad Mol

Does this mean you would prefer to use a 2200 over the 1280 for the B&W???
I am a bit confused as to which printer is better?
I¹ll go with which ever gives me the best image.
Just tell me which one?
Regards....




On 10/23/03 9:34 PM, "Alan.Huntley@..." <Alan.Huntley@...> wrote:

> Hi Mike,
> 
> Your assessment of the pros/cons of each "solution" seems about right. I just
> moved from running an Epson 1160/UT inks/Roark curves to IP 5.6 to drive my
> Epson 2200. I have been very happy with both the color and B&W results from
> IP. BTW, IP doesn't use the yellow ink for B&W which, reportedly, eliminates
> metamerism--have not noticed any color cast in my B&W prints--and the UC inks
> already have a reputation for being pretty stable.
> 
> Overall, I have been happy with IP...so far. I like the fact that many
> seemingly accurate paper profiles are free for download--custom profiles ain't
> cheap--and, my overall workflow has been greatly simplified...Drag-n-drop
> image onto IP main layout window, select appropriate paper profile, hit print.
> Printer starts running almost immediately--compare that to the wait time of
> whatever spooling the Epson driver is doing--and I'm free to use my machine
> for other tasks. Less mistakes works for me!
> 
> Just my 2 cents,
> Alan Huntley
> 
>> > 
>> > From: "Mike Botelho" <mfractl@...>
>> > Date: 2003/10/22 Wed PM 11:03:27 EDT
>> > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
>> > Subject: [Digital BW] Ultra Tones & Dedicated B&W vs ImagePrint & 7-Color
>> > 
>> > OK, based on absorbing lots of information in a very short amount of
>> > time, I seem to have reached a choice between two options, using the
>> > Ultra Tone inks on a dedicated B&W printer or using ImagePrint with
>> > the Ultrachromes on a 7-color Epson printer.  Assuming that the
>> > ImagePrint prints will also display no matamerism (correct me if I'm
>> > wrong), here is how I've come to understand both options:
>> > 
>> > Option 1: Ultra Tones on a dedicated B&W printer:
>> >      -high quality results with no metamerism
>> >      -avoids colored inks fading before black ink
>> >      -choice of warm, neutral, cool toning
>> >      -an expensive RIP not needed
>> >      -would end up spending money on a separate printer for color
>> > 
>> > Option 2: Ultrachromes/ImagePrint on Epson 7-color printer
>> >      -high quality results with no metamerism (due to the use of more
>> >          colors)
>> >      -colored inks could conceivably fade before the black ink
>> >      -some, limited, control over toning
>> >      -high cost of RIP, increasing considerably for WF models (but
>> >          the RIP would also be extremely useful for color printing)
>> >      -could print B&W on the same printer, which could save quite a
>> >          lot if we're talking WF (though the increased cost of a WF
>> >          RIP would eat up a god chunk of that)
>> > 
>> > So, is that a good estimation?  Am I wrong anywhere?  Are there other
>> > advantages or drawbacks to either choice?
>> > 
>> > Also, there's the upcoming Epson 4000 that will supposed have drivers
>> > that will handle B&W better.  (Will this mean new drivers for the
>> > 2200/7600/9600 that also do better?)  Plus, having Photo Black and
>> > Matte Black available as a software change makes it all the more
>> > viable as a printer for both color and B&W.  (Though I'm unsure if
>> > I'd be willing to pay that much more than the 2200 for a few extra
>> > inches.  At that point, why not just spend a bit more and go with the
>> > 7600 and get an impressive size increase, I think, maybe.)
>> > 
>> > Mike
> 
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