Does this mean you would prefer to use a 2200 over the 1280 for the B&W??? I am a bit confused as to which printer is better? I¹ll go with which ever gives me the best image. Just tell me which one? Regards.... On 10/23/03 9:34 PM, "Alan.Huntley@..." <Alan.Huntley@...> wrote: > Hi Mike, > > Your assessment of the pros/cons of each "solution" seems about right. I just > moved from running an Epson 1160/UT inks/Roark curves to IP 5.6 to drive my > Epson 2200. I have been very happy with both the color and B&W results from > IP. BTW, IP doesn't use the yellow ink for B&W which, reportedly, eliminates > metamerism--have not noticed any color cast in my B&W prints--and the UC inks > already have a reputation for being pretty stable. > > Overall, I have been happy with IP...so far. I like the fact that many > seemingly accurate paper profiles are free for download--custom profiles ain't > cheap--and, my overall workflow has been greatly simplified...Drag-n-drop > image onto IP main layout window, select appropriate paper profile, hit print. > Printer starts running almost immediately--compare that to the wait time of > whatever spooling the Epson driver is doing--and I'm free to use my machine > for other tasks. Less mistakes works for me! > > Just my 2 cents, > Alan Huntley > >> > >> > From: "Mike Botelho" <mfractl@...> >> > Date: 2003/10/22 Wed PM 11:03:27 EDT >> > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com >> > Subject: [Digital BW] Ultra Tones & Dedicated B&W vs ImagePrint & 7-Color >> > >> > OK, based on absorbing lots of information in a very short amount of >> > time, I seem to have reached a choice between two options, using the >> > Ultra Tone inks on a dedicated B&W printer or using ImagePrint with >> > the Ultrachromes on a 7-color Epson printer. Assuming that the >> > ImagePrint prints will also display no matamerism (correct me if I'm >> > wrong), here is how I've come to understand both options: >> > >> > Option 1: Ultra Tones on a dedicated B&W printer: >> > -high quality results with no metamerism >> > -avoids colored inks fading before black ink >> > -choice of warm, neutral, cool toning >> > -an expensive RIP not needed >> > -would end up spending money on a separate printer for color >> > >> > Option 2: Ultrachromes/ImagePrint on Epson 7-color printer >> > -high quality results with no metamerism (due to the use of more >> > colors) >> > -colored inks could conceivably fade before the black ink >> > -some, limited, control over toning >> > -high cost of RIP, increasing considerably for WF models (but >> > the RIP would also be extremely useful for color printing) >> > -could print B&W on the same printer, which could save quite a >> > lot if we're talking WF (though the increased cost of a WF >> > RIP would eat up a god chunk of that) >> > >> > So, is that a good estimation? Am I wrong anywhere? Are there other >> > advantages or drawbacks to either choice? >> > >> > Also, there's the upcoming Epson 4000 that will supposed have drivers >> > that will handle B&W better. (Will this mean new drivers for the >> > 2200/7600/9600 that also do better?) Plus, having Photo Black and >> > Matte Black available as a software change makes it all the more >> > viable as a printer for both color and B&W. (Though I'm unsure if >> > I'd be willing to pay that much more than the 2200 for a few extra >> > inches. At that point, why not just spend a bit more and go with the >> > 7600 and get an impressive size increase, I think, maybe.) >> > >> > Mike > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > > ADVERTISEMENT > > <http://rd.yahoo.com/M=194081.4074964.5287182.1261774/D=egroupweb/S=1705019182 > :HM/A=1754016/R=0/SIG=11pv1u2ju/*http://www.ediets.com/start.cfm?code=30529&me > dia=atkins> > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, Bookmarks, Polls and other > resources as they are often being updated. The page is at: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to > unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same > page. > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - Include your full name with your message. > - Include the address of your website, if you have one. > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep > them short. > - As the topic of a thread changes remember to change the subject header. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames > - Complete your Yahoo profile. > - Before posting a question, search the message archives and the various > resources on the homepage. > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service > <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> . [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: [Digital BW] Ultra Tones & Dedicated B&W vs ImagePrint & 7-Color
2003-10-23 by Brad Mol
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