Digital BW, The Print

I had them done by Udo J  Machiels in the UK  for Ilford Galerie Classic pearl and Lyson Standard Fine Art. I actually 
have two sets of profiles, one for viewing in daylight and one for Tungsten, but you would have to be sharp to notice the 
difference.

It is a pricey business getting profiles for SG inks, as it is much more difficult to profile than colour. Udo is great though 
and he charged GBP 65 for a colour profile and GBP 95 for a small gamut profile.

Before I had the profiles written for my printer I used the Lyson profiles that resulted  in metamerism and I had to use a 
tone to hide it. Now I just print perfect Black & White (well the B&W is perfect even if the pictures are not always!)

I am the kind of guy who will spend a fortune on cameras etc.. but is reluctant to spend money on things like profiles, but 
I have to admit that it turned a reasonably priced printer (1160) into a great printer.

regards
Simon




To:             	DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
From:           	"amateriat" <bwbenton@...>
Date sent:      	Thu, 30 Oct 2003 15:53:03 -0000
Subject:        	[Digital BW] Re: Lyson Inks
Send reply to:  	DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com

> Simon,
> 
> Thanks very much for your words.
> 
> Also good to know about your results with Lyson SG. On the 
> matter of custom profiles, where and how did you get them 
> done?
> 
> - Barrett
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Simon 
> Greenwood" <mail@s...> wrote:
> > Hi Barrett,
> > 
> > I have been using Lyson Small Gamut inks with my 1160 for a 
> year now, and after having custom icc profiles written 
> > (important) I get excellent neutral prints (smother tone than 
> quad black) but it is very important to get a good icc profile 
> > written to avoid metamerism.
> > On a personal note. I am really sorry to hear the news about 
> your mother my sincere condolences.
> > regards
> > Simon
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > To:             	DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> > From:           	"amateriat" <bwbenton@b...>
> > Date sent:      	Thu, 30 Oct 2003 04:44:54 -0000
> > Subject:        	[Digital BW] Re: Lyson Inks
> > Send reply to:  	
> DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> > 
> > > Well, in the "pro" column, I've been using Lyson's Quad Black 
> > > Neutral carts in my Epson 1160 for a little under two years 
> with 
> > > few problems, and a lot of good prints. I've heard mixed 
> reports 
> > > about their Small Gamut inks, but that's about it.
> > > 
> > > - Barrett
> > > 
> > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, 
> > > "aevoegels" <aevoegels@y...> wrote:
> > > > Anyone here has any experience with lyson inks? Pros and 
> > > Cons?
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks, Alfred
> 
> 
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