Digital BW, The Print

Mark, 

Much of this was discussed in depth in the PiezoBW forum back in about May of 2001.  Search the forum archives and you will find many postings that will address your concerns.  As I recall the subject was "Object d' art" or something like that. 

Rest assured you are not alone in your concern.  Nor are there any easy answers.  

Regarding the ink choice...if you are concerned about the buyer or gallery owner being concerned about "inkjet" permanence, I suggest you change from dye based inkset to a pigment based inkset.  Otherwise, buy the Epson line and just point them to the big Epson marketing pitch for their 200 year claims etc..

Also, I suggest sticking with 100% rag papers that are acid free.  Pigments and Acid Free is the way to go in my opinion. 

Ink is ink.  Dye is a component of most inks.  Pigment is a component of few.  Join the few, the proud, the pigment printmakers!

Of course since you are a commercial photographer who may need a wider gamut inkset for prints that have a short term use, then dye based sets are probably the way to go for proofs for offset images. 

Good luck and keep posting. 
Steadman
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Mark Tucker 
  To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2001 10:51 PM
  Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Lenswork Issue (Our New Slogan)


  --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., Carolyn  Frayn 
  <carolyn@u...> wrote:
  > Mark, are we free to use this wittecism on our web sites??!!  ;-)
  > Wonderful!!!

  Fine to use anything I write. But since I write with dyes instead of 
  pigments, you'd better cut'n'paste pretty fast. By tomorrow, that 
  post will probably be hard to read.

  ----

  I know we're all kidding around about this, but seriously, am I the 
  only one that's concerned, or is getting this weird vibe when I 
  mention that they're inkjet prints?

  I know that all this is temporary; someday, one day, hopefully all 
  inks will be at least pigment, if not something much better that 
  hasn't even been invented yet. And I know that since I work with 
  MIS dyes, I'm even more sensitive to it (but at least my prints 
  aren't green by the window any more).

  From all these suggestions, I like anything with the word 
  "carbon" in it. Carbon has that connotation like it's the oldest 
  substance on the entire planet. Carbon is Biblical. Carbon is The 
  Book of Genesis. My issue is that I don't think MIS color dyes 
  contain carbon; I think you guys are talking about Piezo inks 
  having carbon. So again, I'm left behind.

  What about "Photographic dye ink on watercolor paper"? Is that 
  too wordy?  I like the word "ink"; ink sounds long-lasting, like the 
  Declaration of Independence. "Dye" sounds like Rit Dye, which 
  doesnt' sound permanent.

  But I honestly DO think that conversations like this are healthy; 
  just to keep this permance/language thing in the forefront.


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