At 04:31 AM 11/10/03 -0600, you wrote: >At 10:20 am -0800 11/9/03, Alan Zinn wrote: > > >Thanks for that. Couldn't agree more with last part. Only thing to > >add is that shops have been selling reproduction prints as art > >prints forever. > > >Alan -- > >That some would sell reproductions of arts prints as original prints >(if I understand the subtlety of your distinction) is more a matter >of explicit fraud than the inherent prevarication my last two >paragraphs attempted to address. But you are right: That is a bad >thing and should be addressed. > >Regardless, reproductions are a valid and necessary medium of >production and sale for numerous reasons, and not something I would >try to argue against. > >My point in those paragraphs was that, with terms like "Fine Art >Print" or "Fine Art Reproduction" even the most clueless customer >knows (more or less) what they are getting. The door is left open for >a discussion of the merits of the reproduction. There is an >invitation to discuss and analyze its quality, fidelity, longevity, >and etc. The customer can come away with not only a beautiful picture >that they like, but as intrinsic idea of its value as a piece of art. > >This contrasts with the term "Giclee Print" which has two different, >and individually condemnable, aspects: > >First, the phrase "Giclee Print" is hilariously idiotic and should go >away simply because it is ludicrous. > >Secondly, and my biggest concern, is that so many shops hide behind >the phrase "Giclee Print." The obscurity of the phrase not only >allows them to, it encourages them to. They slap it on the back of a >repro of an enjoyable but essentially mediocre watercolor (or pastel, >or oil, or...even a photograph) and then implicitly try to pass it >off as though this "Giclee Process" were the medium. (Presumably an >ancient medium the artist only rediscovered through some rigorous >ascetic regimen.) > >I cringe when I see that. I know that when the customers who've been >scammed find out the whole story they are going to become so cynical >that it will be an all-day job to talk them into buying an original >oil for fifteen percent over cost-of-materials. Meanwhile, their >respect for inkjet printing will have gone down so far that just >getting them to pay cost-of-materials will be difficult. > > >Best wishes. > >-=-Dennis > > >p.s.: That "Lookaround" system is really interesting. I'm thinking >about getting the book and trying to build my own. I've been trying >to figure out whether or not you get a usefully different effect if >you construct it so that it rotates around the nodal point of the >lens rather than the film plane. Have you tried any experiments like >this (or do you know off-hand)? I could probably do the diagrams and >work up the math, but it's a lot easier to just ask... :-) Dennis, I don't think most people understand distinctions among types of art reproductions and so forth or even care to learn. They want "sofa-size" for $49.98, or just any "pretty" picture no matter the medium. I'm not being cynical just reporting from many years of experience trying to promote the arts. I cringe when I think of the way my own parents decorated! :-) Yes, artists can educate if they wish to but most don't and go along with the flim flam. RE the Lookaround - although, there are fine rotating cameras that do rotate around the nodal point it isn't necessary. Nodal point rotation IS required for swing lens cameras. Getting a lens (other than a simple, fixed lens) to rotate exactly around the nodal point requires a rather complex and fussy drive and film transport - you think banding's a problem with ink jet printers!. The beauty (if I do say so myself) of the Lookaround is it's simplicity. Once you see the innards you won't want to change anything - it would be like putting a motor drive in a box Brownie. AZ Build a Lookaround! The Lookaround Book, 2nd ed. NOW SHIPPING http://www.panoramacamera.us
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Re: [Digital BW] Carbon "inkjet" (giclee) images found to carbon photographic prints
2003-11-10 by Alan Zinn
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