Digital BW, The Print

Paul,

What you have recommed in the past few days regarding this topic is the 
Epson C82. Does this
apply to the C84 for BW printing only.

jerry


At 03:37 AM 12/4/2003, you wrote:
>Paul, I understand what you say about using the C82 for getting my
>feet wet BUT I have a daily use printer in my HP932C (ink consumer
>maximus) As to the idea of 16X20 display prints I have no where to
>display such a large print not in my home and I have NO intentions of
>any sort of gallery display. (have already had my fill of hobby
>business with 14 years as a custom knifemaker) My photography is for
>me, my friends, and family oh and the occasional wedding or high
>school grad photo I shoot (all processed by the local Pro lab) So a
>13X19 will be plenty of over kill for me. I do like the idea of the
>UT-2 inkset and the simpler way of doing things compared to the extra
>computer time with the 2200 etc. And the price differance between a
>C82 and a 1280 is not a concern for me. I just want to know what I'm
>buying brings the results I am paying for. It sounds as if the 1280
>will do that for me.
>
>Mark W.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>-- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark"
><paul.roark@v...> wrote:
> > Mark,
> >
> > >Will the image quality of a 1280 be noticably better than the
>C82 ...
> >
> > Most viewers of prints would see no difference.  Very critical
>viewers might
> > notice that the C82 highlights are not quite as smooth as the
>1280's.  (But
> > the C82 highlights are about like the 2200 with ImagePrint, which
>many
> > high-end printers on this list have and find very acceptable.)
> >
> > I think a slightly more important difference is that the C82 does
>not
> > deliver the dmax that the 1280 does; that is, the blacks are not
>quite as
> > black.  The C82 is going to peak out with Epson Enhanced Matte at
>about 1.59
> > and PhotoRag at perhaps 1.60.  With the 1280 EEM has been hitting
>1.64 -
> > 1.68 and PhotoRag 1.64.  (Of course, the old 3000 and PhotoRag beat
>this
> > handily with a 1.71.)  With EEM and PhotoRag, I think the C82 depth
>of black
> > is fine for many people and shots.  With some of the other cotton
>papers,
> > the C82 is weaker.
> >
> > So, if one is really into photography as a serious hobby, wanting
>to try
> > lots of different papers, etc., then the 1280 is a significantly
>more
> > versatile printer.  (Once the "Easy UT-2" -- or whatever it's going
>to be
> > called -- is available for the 1280, it'll be the best of both
>worlds in
> > terms of ease and versatility, but at a bit higher price than the
>C82.)
> >
> > On the other hand, for budget-minded photographers who ultimately
>want
> > impressive 16x20 display prints, I can see them testing the waters
>of
> > digital B&W printing with a C82 and then jumping to a 3000 (or
>4000), and
> > keeping the little C82 for daily printing and snapshots.
> >
> > Paul
> > www.PaulRoark.com
>
>
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