I just wanted to contribute my own thoughts on these issues. First, I don't think we are ever going to see any inkjet technology that produces a print identical or even close to an air dried silver fiber print. The problem is that with a silver print your pigment, the silver particles, are suspended in a transparent gelatin. The layer is very thin but it is still three dimensional. When light falls on the print some is reflected directly from the pigment and some light passes through the gelatin to reflect off the paper base coating and back through the pigment structure to your eye. With the very nature of inkjet the pigment will always be sitting on top of the paper to a greater extent with some soaking into the paper. There is no way these two very different structures will look the same. To my mind and eye they both look great. My take is that trying to produce silver print clones with inkjet printers is a fruitless quest. If you want to make silver prints, make silver prints. This is not a question of digital printing vs. traditional printing. The technology for making flawless contract negatives from digital files is very well developed and the results are absolutely gorgeous. The only inkjet technology that seems to come close to silver is dye ink or perhaps Ultrachrome inks on RC type papers. These can be a very good match to RC silver prints and if that is satisfying to you then you are in luck. The longevity, metamerism and the RC look are just are not acceptable to me personally. I like pigment inkjet prints on high quality matte paper. It is medium worthy of use and needs no apologies in any regard at this point. Personal and artistic tastes prevail and you really should be working in a medium that you find satisfying. As to the issue of the dedicated B&W printer, that is a non-issue for me since I don't do any serious color printing. My color printing is limited to an occasional family snap shot and my old 1270 with Epson dye inks on Epson Colorlife paper does the job for me. (I have no eye for color and they look as bad as you might imagine.<G>) My collection of digital B&W prints made by other people is now close to 150 prints. Within the collection are representatives of just about every ink set, paper type and workflow. This includes prints from 2200 and 7600 using the RIPs with Ultrachrome inks as well as all of the grayscale sets, dyes as well as pigments, and prints made with full color ink sets. I have in the collection some really outstanding example of prints made with the Ultrachrome inks and a RIP. These are really top notch quality prints of wonderful images produced by people who have remarkable talents as photographers and artists. These prints a of a caliber where I have to sit and ask myself if I shouldn't follow the same path and stop knocking myself using alternative inks. After giving it a great deal of thought and looking over many prints I find that I still have to give a slight edge to prints made with pigment grayscale inks in dedicated B&W printer systems. The differences are slight but to my eye there are subtle qualities in hue, tone and gradation that I prefer. The differences are at a level that I think they may only be apparent to master printers. Someone who is intent upon extracting that last 1% of quality out of his/her prints. This has as much or more to do with artistic sensibility and critical print evaluation as it does with choice of materials. I don't intend to sound elitist or snobbish with this but the fact remains that what we find pleasing or acceptable in a finished print is going to vary greatly over the 3700 members. We represent a group that ranges from very casual B&W printers to people who are dedicating a major portion of the lives to the effort. We always need to keep that in mind when we read posts here. I think the choice should be pretty straight forward for most people. If all you print is B&W then dedicate a printer to it. Why not? If you need some office level color output, (an Yahoo map for instance) letter size printers are dirt cheap. If your printing is largely color then one of the 7 ink printers with a RIP to optimize B&W and color printing is definitely the way to go. If you fall in a 50/50 split then I would still go for the dual purpose printer. If you are printing mostly B&W and want to extract the most you can then I would recommend a dedicated B&W machine with grayscale pigment inks. One last piece of excellent advice that comes from the late Fred Picker (who in general I found to be extremely annoying and often wrong): "Find a photographer whose prints you really like and then find out how they did it." I am fortunate enough to have several of Tyler Boley's 17x22 prints. To my mind and eye he produces some of the finest inkjet photographs I have seen. There are others that equal him but none that are better. Given that and his long and extensive work in inkjet he is someone whose opinion I take very seriously. Following Fred's advice I am leaning towards an Epson 4000 loaded with Selenium and Warm Neutral PiezoTone inks and the StudioPrint RIP. My two cents. Opinions will vary. Opinions will change as this technology races ahead. Martin Wesley www.carolyn.cc/Guests/MartinWesley/pages/MW_01.html www.borderless-photos.de/guests.html [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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2003-12-11 by Martin Wesley
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