Digital BW, The Print

Roger,

>Does MIS have a sepia toner for the UT-VM ink set?

Sort of -- I mixed a light toner for the Bowhaus system that will pull the
warm gray UT inks to sepia.  But in a single-toner inkset, the most neutral
you'd be able to get is the current UT warm.

> It is my understanding that with the original VM inks the black 
>and grays were identical in both the cool and the sepia set, 
>the difference being only in the toner that is used. 

No, the grays used in the VM-S inkset were the same as the FS-N grays.  That
is one reason the FS-N gray was cool.  It was to keep the tones of the VM-S
inkset neutral further down into the shadows.

One problem I have with the VM-S inkset is that first the grays had to be
toned cool to get a neutral.  Then we added more color pigs to get it warm
again -- too much color for me.

I suppose if you have a quad and wanted a UT-VMS, the new UT-FSN could be
used with a stronger UT sepia toner, but it, again, would have to use more
color to get the sepia than the UT-2 dual toner approach can achieve.

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com 
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  -----Original Message-----
  From: Paul Roark [mailto:paul.roark@...]
  Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 2:34 PM
  To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: RE: [Digital BW] MIS UT & 3000


  Wendel,

  I already have some production UT-FSN in bulk.  So, I suspect if you call
  MIS they'll sell it now.

  Paul
  www.PaulRoark.com
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  -----Original Message-----
  From: Wendel White [mailto:wendel@blacktowns.org]
  Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 9:46 AM
  To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [Digital BW] MIS UT & 3000



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