At 12:31 PM 12/21/03 -0500, you wrote: >Alan Zinn wrote: > > >How many times have you resorted to legal means to protect your pictures > >(or email???) copyright? > > >Twice... > > > How many resulted in compensation over the cost > >of the legal action? > > >Both are still ongoing... > > > Given that pictures are automatically copyrighted, > >having the (C) registered or not, should be enough "protection." > > >It isn't, read the reasons why in the links I provided earlier... >Attorney fees are unavailable without registration AND you are forced >into a position of proving actual damages. > >I learned my lesson by NOT registering the images in the two ongoing >cases. Had they been registered it would have been a slam dunk. >Instead, it's been a real struggle to even get the infringers to discuss >settlement.. > >One infringer was George Washington University who not only published a >number of my images in their media guide without attribution, but they >have refused to return over 300 images (negs and slides) as they were >obliged to under the contract - that although we even had a $1500/image >liquidated damages clause in the contract.. > >The second was the Atlantic 10 sports conference who ran my images >without any attribution, but on a large series of posters, giveaways, >and guides. They did that even in light of the problems I had had >hitherto with GWU (which they knew of) and continued to do so even after >we sent a "cease and desist" notice. > >In both instances the infringers even had explicit contracts with me >that provided they could NOT use our images without proper >attribution... These instances happened within the space of 3 years. I >won't even do the math on what recovery could have been were my images >registered.. I get sick every time I do so. > >Unfortunately, lack of proper registration meant we've had to resort to >less clear-cut ways of pursuing legal actions. > > > I would > >like to see data on successful copyright infringement suites with regard to > >pictures, particularly outside the realm of journalism - not just judgments > >but real cash to the plaintiff. > > > >In cases where the images are registered. My understanding is that most >infringers settle before it reaches a courtroom. As for numbers and >statistics, those aren't my bag - I'm neither a statistician not a >practicing attorney... You might try looking around on the net for some.. > > > I would wager that they are extremely > >rare, certainly not worth the bother to the average picture-maker or > >emailer :-). Also any suite filed in the U.S. against a non-U.S. violator > >would be infinitely more unlikely to proceed past the snicker test. > > >No question about that.. However, if the infringer is a large corporate >entity it's not that hard to believe.. > >You seem to be proceeding as if the biggest worry is Joey Balogna making >a copy of a print or posting a copy of it online.. Unlike music, that's >less of a problem than the infringing by large entities.. Fact is, the >largest infringers ten d not to be individuals but corporate or business >entities. Publishers have often been the target: people like Conde Nast, >etc. > > >Keith Krebs > >"Just some guy," caretaker of the Multiverse's largest EPSON printer >User Community (highly recommended by Vogon Poets and MegaDodo >Publications), at: >http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EPSON_Printers/ >and the Multiverse's largest Canon printer User Community at: >http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Canon-printers >"For the rest of you out there, the secret is to bang the rocks together >guys" > > > >Keith, Thanks for the details. Good luck with your litigation - given the way the dirty rotten scoundrels ripped you off I see why you are a "True Believer in (C)" :-) AZ Build a Lookaround! The Lookaround Book, 2nd ed. NOW SHIPPING http://www.panoramacamera.us
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Re: [Digital BW] Re: copyright
2003-12-21 by Alan Zinn
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