Hi Steve and Carl, --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Steve Kale <stevekale@= b...> wrote: > > <Seems low for EEM with matte K, but not impossible. Did you arrive at > the 25% by finding that the measured density of the 100% patch of the > LK wedge was equal to the measured density of the 25% patch of the K > wedge on the print of the ink separation file (printed in calibration > mode with default ink limit set to 75 for all inks in the calibration > profile)?> > > LK¹s Ink Limit was set at 60. I went through the process in the > documentation for setting the default ink limit and decided that it was a= > very arbitrary call up in the 70 to 90 range. I then decided that I woul= d > maintain your existing ink limits for K and LK. (Even though I note that= > Roy references a higher range than a default set to 75 in his > documentation.) The documentation implies (but is not explicit) that thes= e > limits should be determined prior to determining the partitioning. The 2200 ink limits were done a little more adhoc rather than strictly by my orginal documents. The idea for cool 2200 prints is to have a combination of LK,LC,LM play the role of one light black ink. (Basically, instead of mixing the inks manually to get a neutral gray, the idea is to mix them using software curves). However the difference is that you now have 3 inkjets delivering ink so it made sense to lower the individual limits to make sure we don't flood the paper. > > > <No it is not an abrupt switch, the two inks are blended and you can see > the transition by running the graph_curve script with your .quad warm > curve file (from the curvedropbox).> > > Got it. What is the x axis on this chart? Ink percentage? I am surprise= d > to see (in the graph of the unlinearized curve file) LK peaking way up in= > the 63% range and K not beginning until the high 40s, despite partitionin= g > at 25%. I would love an explanation of this in layman terms. I think you have the right idea about the chart -- its rotated 90deg CW from the more natural view. Down the page is gray values from 0K to 100K. Across is ink percentage -- i.e. proportional to how many dots of each ink are layed down. Partitioning is a done by "weighting" the inks and limiting the total amoun= t of ink rather than by crossover points. Secondly, because of dotgain and the logarithmic nature of density, all the curves are pushed over quite a bit. I.e. where you'd think K might come in at 25% it comes in much later like 40%. > > > <Mine usually are about the same dmax or higher after linearization.> > > Hmmmm...I would expect the linearization curve to use a fixed dMax readin= g > and that the movement we see is down to reading variance/drying effects b= ut > I guess that depends on the math. They ought to match. Drying/aging the inks is significant. > > > The ink limit variables and boost variable still baffle me. Presumably, > right up to the boost level the maximum ink deposit is 75% K coverage and= > maybe the very last remnants of LK. At the boost level we kick in more in= k. > Is the boost variable the level it kicks in or the ink coverage to which = it > climbs? If the latter, then why would boost not be equal to 100? > Presumably the argument is that we get good coverage at 75 (hence the > default ink density) and a push to 90/95 is plenty at the very top end. = If > this is to combat dot gain I would have thought that this would already b= e > factored into the underlying driver such that 100% gave maximum and optim= al > coverage. Perhaps Roy can comment on these points. The Boost number is another ink limit percentage. E.G. if LIMIT_K=75 and BOOST_K=90, the K ink will start at a slope based on the 75 value, however= towards the top it will "smoothly" transition into an ink limit of 90. Thi= s gives an extra umph of black ink right at the end for a greater dMax. Putting it too high though would make you reach dMax before the darkest gray -- no separation from there on. The underlying driver has no builtin dotgain or optimal coverage factors -- it's totally "raw" dots. Roy > > Steve > >
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Re: [Digital BW] QTR and Making Curves
2003-12-28 by Roy Harrington
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