Austin, and all! I personally would be surprised if 100% black printed with just black on Piezo. This is because I guess that the starting point for Piezo is a theoretical range from Pure-black to pure paper-white (in terms of half-toning / dithering patterns). The profile will then set 'end-points' along the 'line of theoretically available tones' that could well (for ink-limits or whatever) mean that more than 'just black' is used. Going back several months, having a theoretical range of tones rather larger than 255 is great... because it does give the system flexibility to profile for different media and still leave - let's stay on the safe side >100 distinguishable tones. Also, I think there may have been some evidence from the past where someone had problems with just black ink (100%), but converting to 99% (presumably introducing a second grey into the dither) helped get rid of the patterns altogether. Of course... _that_ would imply that there was just black in 100% :) This may be a profile related. I'll be interested to hear your results... Unfortunately, I think your comparison test will be interesting, but not representative of 1290 performance - in this respect, I believe the more modern printers favour the development of 'non-Piezo' quad products that use the Epson driver. I agree with you that printing line patterns is not the best way to test a quad-printing 'technology'. That's not to say I don't still Love Piezo, just that the newer printers give alternatives something of a chanve to catch-up(!). OK I know that is a personal-taste related point :) FWIW, Piezo is FANTASTIC for smooth tone changes (IMO) and I can not speak for MIS alternatives. However, we should all appreciate that some resampling is going on, probably in both workflows, and that probably (possibly) both are using some kind of bicubic interpolation (I think Piezo is described as using 'stochastic error diffusion'. In other words, hard-edges will be softened... it is inevitable, just print some text under Piezo and you will see. In a black-on-white example, I believe the effect is bot great... but works perfectly in con-tone images. Final thought. Piezo only ever prints in graphics mode. It is _possible_ I believe for the Epson driver to print in graphics and text modes at once. This may effect results, but that's a big maybe. However, to me, a logical conclusion to be drawn from 'interpolation' is that at some point, data is 'added' by Piezo... and probably the Epson driver too... ...we just don't know how much data can be 'added' successfully by each system, or where it's effectiveness cuts-off (in the way it is _programmed_) unless someone has internal details I don't know of. Lighten up everyone! Can we keep this non-tribal if possible? Best, Nij > -----Original Message----- > From: Austin Franklin [mailto:darkroom@...] > > eMail me the square you made, and I'll print it out. I have a 90x > microscope, as well as an XRite 810 densitometer. I can tell exactly what > the printer is doing, and I'll let you know. It will take me a > day or so to > do the test. I happen to have one 3000 setup with Piezo inks, > and one 3000 > setup with Epson inks, so I can make four test prints. > > Pure black should only print using black ink. Actually, it'll be > better, I > think, to do this test using the Epson inks...since you'd see color if the > Piezo driver is in fact using any of the other inks, right?
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RE: [Digital BW] Piezography Review: Piezo v. Epson resolution PURE BLACK?
2001-10-11 by Nij
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