I am going to retract my statement below about there being limited differences between the hues of BO MK and PK prints. (It seems I must have badly labelled some test prints I did!) BUT I don¹t get brown prints with PK either!. Take a look at the following page for the same image printed with QTR 50:50 cool:warm, BO with Epson Ultrachrome MK and BO Epson Ultrachrome PK. The scans were done at 360ppi (same as the original psd image), Adobe RBG 1998, without colour correction with my (crappy) Epson Perfection 2450 (no sharpening at print nor scan). I think they are good enough to show the differences in hue and even smoothness. If you click on a thumbnail it will bring up a slide show. If you click on an image in the slide show, it will bring the image in full size. http://homepage.mac.com/stevekale/PhotoAlbum11.html If anything I get a very slight purple tint with the PK I assure you it is BO. Note that this is PK purchased in Europe. I think Carl Schofield once posted a link to a BO image with PK on EPSG (I could not find the link again) which had a definite brown hue. Could it be that PK Europe is different from PK US? Cheers Steve PS I have not measured the dMaxs of the prints but as a quick relative measure if I take each scan¹s mode to Grayscale, the K% (from the info palette in PS) of each image¹s top left corner are: original 100%, QTR EEM 87/88%, BO MK EPSG 89/90%, and BO PK EPSG 92/93%. From: Steve Kale <stevekale@...> Reply-To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com Date: Fri, 06 Feb 2004 16:49:07 +0000 To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Epson 2200- need to print black and white.. Julie I have an Epson 2100/2200 and have stuck with the Epson UC inks thus far. I use Roy Harrington¹s Quadtone RIP and Carl Schofield¹s 2200 curves. QTR requires a Mac (or Linux). I don¹t believe you mentioned what OS you are using. If you are using a Mac you should definitely give QTR a go (shareware $50). Here are some links: http://harrington.com/QuadToneRIP.html http://homepage.mac.com/WebObjects/FileSharing.woa/2/wo/CT12ss5AMqT2P2ZI.1/0 .2.1.2.22.31.97.4.35.0.1.1.1?user=scho&fpath=QuadToneRIP%202.0&templatefn=Fi leSharing2.html (copy and paste the entire link into your browser) You will be staggered at the QTR difference vs using Epson colour profiles. In relation to Black Only printing, I can also recommend using the Matt Black ink on a variety of matt papers (EEM, HPR, EVFA...). I have also used the Photo Black (in BO mode) on Epson Premium Semi-Gloss and found that it has pretty much exactly the same hue to my eye as the Matt Black on the same paper....I am now looking at two prints of the same image, one with MK and the other with PK (each on EPSG) and it is extremely difficult to tell them apart and neither are brown. However, even after spraying with Lyson Print Guard, the matt ink print will smudge so stick with the PK. If you are interested in better colour profiles, I have made profiles for my printer using Gretag MacBeth Eye One Photo and would be happy to share these profiles with you (I have HPR, EEM and EPSG so far). Each profile is calculated after drying and then spraying the print with three coats of Lyson Print Guard. Cheers Steve From: "jsstapen" <jsstapen@...> Reply-To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2004 20:35:21 -0000 To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Digital BW] Epson 2200- need to print black and white.. I am having problems printing black and white with my epson 2200. When I set the printer to color ink, the print comes out bluish and set to only black ink, the print comes out brownish. I was told to always set the paper to bright white watercolor, this helps a little, but then the print is slightly bluish-greenish???? 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Re: [Digital BW] Epson 2200- need to print black and white..
2004-02-06 by Steve Kale