Hello Jim, As a lurking learner I just want to thank you for a terrific post. It is very helpful!! Phil Radlick -----Original Message----- From: jim hayes [mailto:jimhayes@...] Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2004 9:36 AM To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Digital BW] Paper/Framing tips (long), was B/W Photo Framing/Paper question --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "BluesVan" <BluesVan@a...> wrote: > Hi, > > I've got an Epson 2200 and ImagePrint, and I'm getting excellent B/W > prints. I am fairly new to this and wanted to know if there is a > preferred paper type (matte, rag, etc..) and brand (should I even > consider using non-Epson papers ?) for B/W archival photos which > will be framed under glass (are there alternatives here as well ?). > I'm looking at print sizes ranging from 5 x 7 to 5 x 8.75 to 8 x 10. > > Thanks for any info, > Brian I use the same combo, though I print larger. I frame myself since the markup is tremendous (can be 5x, am told). Here's some thoughts. They are longish, and my opinion only, others may have other preferences/ better and longer experiences: 1) "Ghosting" can occur with glossy but not matte papers. This is were you frame something, and 6 months later, the ink sort of outgasses, forming an image on the inside of the glass. It can be solved, according to many, by simply putting a sheet of paper over the print after it is printed for a couple of days to absorb stuff. Then frame it. I use matte paper so haven't ever messed with this. 2) Some matte paper can have the coating flake off in little bits, creating white spots. Brushing with a drafters brush or an anti-static cloth just before printer insertion may minimise this, as may spraying the print after. Hahnemule paper is notorious for flaking but is otherwise a top paper. Low humidity can worsen the problem. Non-Epson paper is fine, except don't tell Epson you've used them if you need Epson tech support. Weird. Some papers have optical brightners to make them whiteter- some people think this is not strictly archival or that the paper will dull in time. 3) If you spray the print with a fixative it can improve longevity. Some coatings deepen the blacks on glossy paper- this is a subject in itself. There are many sprays. Premier Art "Print Shield" has been tested to improve longevity officially. It is transpartent on matte paper, on glossy too if you spray it with care. 4) go to htttp://inkjetart.com and click on the 2200 link and then the media recomendations link for paper recomendations. This is a commercial site. But they try to have a lot of plain facts about this stuff. 5) I use metal frames over wood because they have less chance of contamination (acid in wood) getting into the mat, and can be taken apart and reassembled in a flash if you don't put Kraft paper on the back. W/o Kraft paper the print can breathe too. I buy cardboard corners that go over the metal corners to prevent nicks on frames for transport. I buy from http://www.framingsupplies.com which has good service, huge variety, and discounts on hangers to mat cutters. You can get metal and wood moulding cut to many lengths. A metal frame moulding, cut to 18x24 with assembly hadware, costs only $11. 6) Lucite is better for shipping and has less of a tint to it than glass, but I never use it anymore. It scratches too easily and the staic electricity collects dust and can contribute to print flaking. I use Conservation-clear glass made by Tru-Vue. This glass has an anti-UV coating on the inside, which contributes to longevity of print. I don't get anti-glare version simply because I don't like it, but it is also made by etching the inside of the glass with acid- slightly questionable. Lucite anti-glare is made differently I believe and is safe. Anti-UV lucite is also made but hard to find (try Light Impressions). If you buy the glass cut request that they sand the edges, and ask that they put a bit of masking tape on the outside face, so you dont have to scratch the border with a razor blade to tell which side has the UV coating and ahould face inside. I use Tru-Vue (purple) glass cleaner because it is safe for the UV coating and I presume archival. Shop around for glass, I found prices vary locally. 7) I have used Logan's top of the line mat cutter called "Framer's Edge" for about 1 1/2 years, bought at a discount from framingsupplies.com, although they carry other brands. Logan can be pretty bad, a friend that has framed all his life tells me he hates Logan, but this is a decent model at a good price. I don't think I'd buy any other model they make but that's up to you. Always use at least a 4 ply window mat so that the print will never touch the glass- it can breathe. 8) There are a few ways to attach the print to the back mat and hold it behind the window mat. I never dry mount anymore. Some people use ragged edge torn Japanese Mulberry paper strips to form hinges with either wheat or rice paste adhesive to attach to top of print. Lineco even makes pre-adhesive torn strips-right out of the box. I like mounting corners better. They are little corner pockets, paper or plastic that hold the work in place, hopefully hidden behind the window mat. They go on in seconds and you can remove the print and even swap prints out with these. My favorite new item I use is see-thru polyester mounting strips by Lineco, which are just strips that hold an edge of your print overlapping it... you can then form your own corners, cut the strips to any length (1/2-1 inch for your size), hold the long edge of a print in the middle, trim the overlap to not be visible under window mat (!) etc. With corners or strips, leave a little gap so the print can expand under temp extremes without buckling. From what I can see it looks like the strips promote expansion better than the corners, but I've just started using them. If using the hinges, you don't worry about this. 9) Consider a bigger frame. The fashion now is to have wide window mat borders. Some folks like to weight the window, making the top border narrower than the bottom border. I try not to go below a 3 inch border, even on the top; you may get away with less on a smaller print- certainly 5x7. I think when I added up the entire cost of framing something in an 11 x 14 frame, including glass, mat board, rubber feet, etc, it was about $15 materials, getting it from the right sources. 10) I called up Crescent and ordered most of their archival mat board corner samples, and a display stand to hold them. This is what the frame shops have. It's only 18 inches long and holds about 230 different corner samples. Something like $35 for both. I also ordered about 30 sample metal frame "corners" from framingsupplies.com - they cut them for you for this purpose if you want. So I now have a mini frame shop. I look at corner samples, hold them next to print, then just call up a local frame shop and order up a 32x40 sheet of whatever mat color I want. I can save a dollar/sheet if I order a pack of 25 from framingsupplies.com but they sometimes get creased in shipping. You can buy the mat corner sample kit from them too but it's more expensive than from Crescent. 11) I learned a lot of this by simply buying a few books and reading them and then making a few mistakes. And following threads on this forum (aka "ghosting") and others. A lot of framing books get well, silly (my opinion) by after a chapter or two on basic framing, going into how they made frames out of junk found in flea markets, gluing glitter to the frame moulding, welding frames out of rusty iron, very weird stuff. I suggest: keep the frame simple and understated. And research the books you buy carefully...get lots of pages of nitty gritty, and less on special frames and triple window mat cutting with notches in the corners, etc. Actually, it can be a simple task requiring minimal skills. 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RE: [Digital BW] Paper/Framing tips (long), was B/W Photo Framing/Paper question
2004-02-22 by Phil Radlick
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