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Re: [Digital BW] B & W shootout at PMA and DIMA

2004-02-25 by piezobw

Missed your message on the Piezolist David,

The guidelines were that each participant was sent a target and had
72 hours to print 
it=receive the CD-ROM test target file and print on Monday, ship it
back by Friday. No 
other rules other than stating what printer, inks, paper, software
was used along with 
the relative value of the cost of making the print.

DIMA has a panel of judges who then blind judged all the entries,
without any 
indication of which was printed by whom or by what process. In B&W
one winner was 
chosen, and no runner up places.

The printers present from EPSON: 1160, 1280, 2200, 4000, 9000, 9500
fom HP: 7960
fom ColorSpan: X-12

inks=PiezoTones, Lyson, Sundance, EPSON UltraChrome, HP, ColorSpan

papers ran the gamut with fine art surfaces from Hahnemuhle, Ilford,
Lyson, Moab, 
Piezography  and then typical matte/glossy EPSON, HP and ColorSpan
inkjet papers

RIPS; ErgoSoft, ImagePrint, ColorBurst
plugin: PiezographyBW, R9 Septone

ICC profiles: PiezographyBW ICC

I think this is as clear a presentation as possible at this time. We
have shipped back 
copies of the exact technical specifications of each entry and will
have those when our 
gear arrives from the PMA tradeshow. At that time I will be able to
give you a more 
complete picture.

The few that I remember are my own of course:
 -EPSON 1280, Piezography Museum Bright White Paper, PiezoTone
Selenium Tone 
inks, PiezographyBW ICC profile

- EPSON 2200, Moab Entrada, Sundance Septone inks, R9 Septone plugin

- EPSON 1160, PiezoTone Selenium Tone inks, Ilford Fine Art paper,
PiezographyBW 
plugin

- EPSON 4000, EPSON Smooth Archival paper, UltraChrome inks (RIP?)

-HP 7960, HP Photo Glossy paper, HP Quad black inks

There were 13 in total and I will post the complete details when we
get back the 13 
technical entry sheets.

regards,

Jon Cone





--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, David Ray Carson 
<dave@d...> wrote:
> > From: "jymbo4600" <jymbo46@b...>
> > 
> > I have seen this printer/software/RIP shootout referred to on a
> > number of forums. Apparantly Piezo ICC won it. Did anyone here go
to
> > PMA and see the results? Does anyone know of a site where we could
> > view the results. Does anyone know what the guidelines were. This
> > would seem to be an interesting comparison of all of the methods
we
> > use here. (I'm an XP/PS 7.01 & CS/IP 5.6/Epson 2200 user meself.)
> > 
> > Best, Jim Weekes
> 
> 
> I asked the same question in the piezo forum
> (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/piezography3000/) during a
discussion with
> Jon Cone of Piezo regarding the ICC Piezo system and didn't receive
a reply.
> 
> 
> -David Ray Carson
> web: http://www.davidraycarson.com/

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