Joe, I believe that if you use the unsharp mask in RGB, then select fade > luminosity in the edit menu, you'll get the same result without any loss incurred in switching back and forth to another mode. Mike From: "Joe Dempsey" <jdempsey@...> Reply-To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2004 15:21:08 -0500 To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> Subject: RE: [Digital BW] On film If you use Photoshop, correct the image the best you can in RGB and then convert the image to LAB color by going to Image>Mode>Lab color.. LAB color separates the image into three channels. Lightness (isolates all the detail) and isolates the color in channels A & B ... (Hence L-A-B Color). Once you have converted to Lab color, go to channels and click on the lightness channel and lo, you get a BW image with all the detail and none of the color. Then make your corrections with levels and curves in that order. Avoid the brightness and contrast controls ... they destroy information ... levels and curves does not. Once you are satisfied with the image, sharpen it if you care to and save it as (image number or name-BW. The you can reopen your existing image and convert back to RGB and it is as it was before you started working on it. I have also used the Fred Miranda Black and White Workflow Plug-in with some success for converting RGB to BW. NEVER convert to BW by merely converting the mode to grayscale. You let the computer interpolate what it thinks the BW shades of gray should be and I trust my eyes more than I do the processor. One further hint. As of late, I have been converting my color images to LAB and selecting the lightness channel for sharpening and am getting better overall appearance. After sharpening, I convert back to RGB. Hope this helps, Joe -----Original Message----- From: cirkutguy [mailto:cirkut@adelphia.net] Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2004 3:06 PM To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Digital BW] On film --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Anthony G. Atkielski" <anthony@a...> wrote: > Most of the renditions are impossible in color conversions, because they require information missing from a color image. I'm curious as to what information is missing from the color image that would be in the black and white. I too find that I often can't match the look of black and white film with a color conversion, but have always assumed that some amount of messing around would do it. Mark [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as they are often being updated. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same page. Please follow these basic guidelines: - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep them short. - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the membership without notice. - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed from the membership. - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group Owner and Moderators. See Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines in the Files section: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE OWNER AND MODERATORS OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE OWNER AND MODERATORS OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com <mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Uns ubscribe> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> . [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: [Digital BW] On film
2004-04-12 by Michael Kitei
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