Very good comments! The real problem is that there doesn´t exist a perfect print with the only exeption that you see the print as a perfect print. Bernard von Foerster --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Tom Baker <tbaker1328@s...> wrote: > Just one comment. If it LOOKS different, is IS different. So, compensate for the looks so that the different sizes look like what you want. It's all about looks. > > Tom Baker > > hogarth <hogarth@s...> wrote: > It's not just psychological. It's also physiological as well. Remember, > the human eye is adaptive. The iris is always on the move, adjusting the > amount of light it lets in, and therefore adjusting how bright the area > it is looking at appears. > > Depending on the subject, a print can look quite different to a human > when printed small versus printed large, even if it objectively measures > the same "average brightness." It can look both darker and lighter > (depending on subject). It can look more contrasty or washed out > (depending on subject). > > I've got a room that is gray, part of a remodeling job (that got me a > darkroom!). When we got to time to pick colors, the designer sat with us > and we picked colors on paint chips. This gray room, I picked the color. > He asked if that was exactly what I wanted. When I said yes, it pointed > to the chip two levels up from that one and said, paint it that color > and you'll get what you want. I tried it - it's only paint. And he was > right. > > As a block of color takes up your whole field of view, your eye tries to > find a balance. It tries to make really dark colors appear lighter by > opening up the iris. It tries to make really light colors darker by > closing down the iris. The brain tries to compensate and keep the > balance that you "know" is right. > > What makes anyone think that doesn't hold true for photographs? > > Don't even get me started on using unsharp masking for small and large > prints... > > > > On Mon, 2004-04-12 at 19:51, Paul D. DeRocco wrote: > > > That sounds fishy to me. There may be some psychological effect at work, but > > resizing an image shouldn't change the average brightness of it when > > printed. > > > > -- > > > > Ciao, Paul D. DeRocco > > Paul mailto:pderocco@i... > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as they are often being updated. > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same page. > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep them short. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the membership without notice. > - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed from the membership. > - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group Owner and Moderators. See "Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines" in the Files section: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ > > BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP. > > > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! Groups Links > > To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/ > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: [Digital BW] Image Density vs. Print Size
2004-04-13 by photographyworks
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