Digital BW, The Print

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Here is the name of one of a very important book:
 Understanding Understanding: Essays on Cybernetics and Cognition  
 from Heinz von Förster

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DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "photographyworks" 
<photographyworks@y...> wrote:
> Sure it is a physicological issue for you and for everyone who 
> believes-may be in certain moments-that he lives in a 
physiological 
> world;-).
> Everybody will see what he wants to to see! That´s why marketing 
is 
> so important in our society. (Make the visitors of your 
exhibition  
> believe that they are looking at the best prints they have ever 
seen)
> If you want to know how I had solved your specific (physiological)
> problem, -here is the answer:
> I make a testprint (detailed full res)) to check for banding, 
> sharpness i.e.
> But I am sitting down before the screen only when I have 
the "power" 
> to maker a print. (Power=emotion=making faults=thinking 
> paradoxical=and so on.) Than I turn on my tube amplifier and 
listen 
> Chet Baker or Patti Smith and I know that I am alive within these 
> moments. And when the print comes out: WOWWW! What a print I say!! 
> Sometimes there is banding visible the next day and I am down with 
> my nerves. But I never will miss what I have felt the day before.
> 
> I can recommend: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-
> /0387953922/qid=1081878524/sr=1-
> 1/ref=sr_1_1_xs_stripbooks_i1_xgl14/103-0831820-7091857?
> v=glance&s=books
> 
> Hope this helps
> Bernard
> 
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "bobphoto" 
> <bobphoto@a...> wrote:
> > After reading all of these thoughful replies, I concur that it 
may 
> be psychological and/or physiological but I think it is physical 
as 
> well as John suggests.  I think when you scale down an image the 
> detail in the large image spreads out a little bit taking up more 
> space than it should and thus puts more ink on paper.  For all of 
> these reasons I will make test prints from a section of the image 
at 
> full size like I do in the darkroom.  
> > 
> > Thanks to all,
> > 
> > Bob
> >   ----- Original Message ----- 
> >   From: John Vitollo 
> >   To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com 
> >   Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 11:46 PM
> >   Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Image Density vs. Print Size I'm 
with 
> Bob on this one!
> > 
> > 
> >   "bobphoto" wrote:
> >   > I have come to the conclusion that when making a test print 
> you have to take a section 
> >   of an image and print it full size rather than re-sizing the 
> whole image to make a small 
> >   print.  > Bob
> > 
> >   I'm with Bob on this one! A few weeks ago I did a test print 
on 
> my Epson 1200 loaded with 
> >   Fotonics. I wanted to test the new Kodak Ultra paper. I 
resized 
> an 8x10 image in 
> >   Photoshop in the Print with Preview down to about 3x4 inches 
to 
> place more than one 
> >   image on the paper. The print came out with the black ink area 
> area all crackled - looks 
> >   like an orange skin -  and thought "crap this paper is not 
> compatible with Fotonics". But 
> >   decided to print a full size image and guess what? Made a 
fairly 
> nice image and the black 
> >   areas were not crackled or blocked - had full detail and 
smooth 
> surface.
> > 
> >   Could be sizing down image increases the resolution to the 
point 
> where the printer/driver 
> >   can not handle it.
> > 
> >   John V. 
> > 
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