I'm one of those who have had clog problems with my 1160. I got tired of screwing around with clogs, transfer curves, and seemingly endless iterations of test prints and have pretty much given up BW (sadly). I'm intrigued by the HP7660 to dedicate to BW. Mark, Can you say more on the 'extra money it costs to run' (Re; the 7660)? Thanks, JimD At 09:15 PM 4/13/2004, Mark Hahn wrote: >a simple search for "clog from hell" should turn up many many users >that have had problems. Talk to Bob at MIS and he'll tell you >straight up that you should *expect* more problems from the pigmented >inksets that he sells than from dye based systems... why would he lie >about it? I used an 1160 w/CIS for 3 years and never complained >about my clogs since I was able to deal with them and was happy with >the prints, but I am also happy with the HP 7660 and have so far not >had a single problem which is worth all the extra money it costs to >run. > >Also, I recently brought some 8x12 prints from the 7660 to my gallery >and the first response was "glad you've gone back to 'real' >photography," the prints are *that* good. Granted, for many images I >prefer a warm tone matte print... but that's what the Epson is for. > >mark > >--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Andre" ><am1000@v...> wrote: > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Mark Hahn" > > <markhahn2000@y...> wrote: > > > The Epson will be much more trouble than the HP. In fact, if you > > are > > > not using the Epson every day you will have trouble... > > > > This is simply untrue. I have an almost four year old printer, >(Epson > > 1160) used three different carbon pigment inksets and a CIS, been >at > > times weeks without using the printer. I usually use it about one >or > > two days a week, sometimes not. This printer is dependable, fast >and > > makes great prints. > > > > If you feel you need to print to maintain your printer, just press > > paper feed button while turning the printer on, release and the > > printer will print a nozzle cleck. Simple. > > > > Cheers, > > Andre > > > > >Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as >they are often being updated. > >http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > >If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to >unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same >page. > >Please follow these basic guidelines: >- As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep >them short. >- Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. >Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the >membership without notice. >- Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W >printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed from >the membership. >- By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and >guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group Owner >and Moderators. See "Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines" in the Files section: >http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ > >BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT >YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE "OWNER" AND >"MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO >YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR >EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF >PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF >THE "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE >BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE >USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) >UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) >STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT >YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE >PRINT YAHOO GROUP. > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > >
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Re: [Digital BW] Re: HP Gray cart. vs Dedicated B&W Printer; need help
2004-04-14 by JimD
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