I hate to get involved in these things but I am an 1160 UT (previously VM) user and I guess you can call me lucky. I never had those nether world clogs The only problem I did have was eventually replacing a print head which was not the fault of MIS. Just wear and tear. As far as making up the initial CFS investment, which I didn't think was extravagant because of the pigment cost savings, I sold some 10x15 prints. Paid for everything pretty fast. I like filling the bottles and seeing how much pigment I have. I'm still waiting for this machine to die but it's like Freddy Krueger. I have a 1280 which I haven't put into heavy operation yet. Just a crazy old man having some fun. Hallelujah! bgs ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Hahn" <markhahn2000@...> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 3:06 AM Subject: [Digital BW] Re: HP Gray cart. vs Dedicated B&W Printer; need help I'm comparing it mainly to an Epson 1160 with MIS ink in a CFS which is negligible in cost per print once it's running, especially if you use EEM paper. The HP #59 carts are $24 at Target (cheapest I've found) and the HP Glossy Premium Plus paper is about a buck a sheet (I cut down 11x17" so I can get 8x12" prints out of the printer) so each print costs between $2-3 depending on ink usage. I think the Epson/MIS prints cost around $.35 per print on 8.5x11" paper, but that is after you buy all your equipment. You probably have to make hundreds of prints before you break even on the MIS/Epson equipment cost though. mark ... > Mark, > Can you say more on the 'extra money it costs to run' (Re; the 7660)? > > Thanks, > JimD ... Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as they are often being updated. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same page. Please follow these basic guidelines: - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep them short. - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the membership without notice. - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed from the membership. - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group Owner and Moderators. See "Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines" in the Files section: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP. Yahoo! Groups Links
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Re: [Digital BW] Re: HP Gray cart. vs Dedicated B&W Printer; need help
2004-04-14 by bgs
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