Digital BW, The Print

Jim, The Silver printer going over the prints with a loupe wasn't trying to 
discredit the process,  he was only curious how good the process was for 
possibly his own work. He didn't say that nor did he know I knew who he was, Thats 
just the feeling I got from him. I think he assumed all inkjet prints had dots. 
A landscape Photographer such as he really probably only had a passing 
interest in my images.
I only brought up dots because they don't have to be there at all and they 
can be eliminated at a decent price. I honestly thought they have been gone for 
a couple years until I started looking at prints from other work flows
(with a loupe) trying to save or discard the ones of interest. When quad BW 
inks are partitioned properly there are no dots regarldless of the printer. Its 
all trade offs, varible tints and dots color or not.
And your right, image is everything, who cares about the dots? I 
do(somewhat)because I paid to have them NOT be there, but the image and feel is what 
counts more than anything.
I really only posted food for thought for troubled practioners and those 
looking for a direction. I'm not suggesting anyone change there work flow, But I 
know YOU have many times over the years, Me too. 
My Only point? Technical perfection is avalible at a resonable cost for all 
images and styles and its been around awhile and it dosen't use color inks. Why 
should new commers fight it buying new printers, inventing new work flows, 
Puchacing more software just to tame the effect of color inks. I'm not one who 
strives to make prints that mimic air dryed Silver fiber prints. I'm not in 
this for that at all. 
I'm just trying to steer people to the value of a 7000 or 9000 printer and 
The excellenace of Studio print software perhaps instead of the new 4000 or 
9600.
I will mention a set of prints I have from the tech exchange last year with 
many work flows shows some discolartion on EEM 2200 ultrachrome inks with a 
custom profile wheras the same printer using IP5 for BW has not changed tint as 
far as I can tell.
Color inks for black and white makes me alot more nervous than dots that can 
only be seen with a loupe regardless of what Whilhelm says...
With  Respect,
Steve M.
In a message dated 4/16/2004 2:04:58 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
jimhayes@... writes:
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> If I saw someone looking at my images with a loupe in a gallery I
> would laugh out loud, even if it was a big name that could bring me in
> fame and fortune. I don't want it that bad.
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> I don't judge an image on high technical purity. I judge it on
> emotional/intelectual impact with sometimes a nod to design elements
> like lines and lighting. And I won't change my workflow to please
> someone else's viewpoint.
> 
> No offense though, I respect YOUR viewpoint, just not your famous
> observer's. I have now and then seen (with envy)some artistic work
> done by a member or two of this list up close that relied much on
> attention to technical details. BUT also on the emotive impact. :-)
> 
> Jim Hayes
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