Digital BW, The Print

Clayton,
Correct me if I'm wrong, but did you not start this thread? It does 
not have a lot to do with the forum and is definately off topic.
You and others consider it "Art" while I and maybe some others who 
are to nervous to post here because ot the "Flame", do not.
Well exposed, sharp and details in the shadows, yes, art, no. It is 
Photo Journalism. Do you consider the pics of our brave men shown on 
the front cover of the New York Times every day art? I think that 
this type of pic is disgusting and shows no thought for the relatives 
of the persons concerned. 
The site you refer to just shows the poor lives of others, it's 
journalism and not art. To even mention and compare this to Ansel is 
just bad form.


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Clayton Jones" 
<cj@c...> wrote:
> Hello Sierra,
> 
> >...the work on the site to me is not much more than snapshots...
> >...All who think that it is art should...
> 
> First, I never said anything about whether it is "art" or not.  I 
said
> it was excellent photography.  What "Art" is is a whole 'nother
> subject which will probably be debated forever.  By "putting words 
in
> my mouth" your remark is taking this thread somewhere it was not 
meant
> to go.
> 
> Second, if these works are snapshots, then the works of H.C Bresson,
> Elliot Erwitt and Sebastiao Salgado are also snapshots.  If you 
think
> that, then I guess our definitions of "snapshot" are different.  
> 
> The man's work is exceptional and I merely wanted to bring it
> to others' attention here so they could enjoy it.  There was no
> intention to start a discussion and I'm really disappointed that 
this
> has turned onto yet another on-line debate.  Please, _at least_ 
limit
> remarks to what was actually said.
> 
> We all here love photography, and the occasional OT but related
> subject enriches the forum experience.  But if every thread turns 
into
> a dragged out sniping war that detracts from the forum's main 
purpose
> then members will be afraid to talk about anything but clogs and
> curves.  Please exercise some judgement on these kinds of threads.
> 
> Regards,
> Clayton
> 
> 
> Info on black and white digital printing at    
> http://www.cjcom.net/digiprnarts.htm