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Re: [Digital BW] Permajet Alpha news?

2004-05-05 by Steve Kale

Sorry I should have said the pricing varies vs HPR.  Also the Alpha ia a
lighter weight.  The pricing I note below is for 308 gsm.  For 188 gsm HPR
the pricing is:

 Photo Rag
A4 / 50
26.10
30.67

Photo Rag
A3 / 50
52.70
61.92

 Photo Rag
A3+ / 50
80.50
94.59

Does 210gsm have enough weight (to avoid dry mounting)?


From: Steve Kale <stevekale@...>
Reply-To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 05 May 2004 15:37:57 +0100
To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Permajet Alpha news?

On Silverprint¹s website they have Permajet Alpha 310 and Omega 310.  Aplha
310: A 100% natural smooth cotton rag paper with an acid free warm tone base
providing an excellent tonal range. Omega 310:  A 100% natural smooth cotton
rag paper with an acid free extra white base providing an excellent tonal
range.  Each are listed as 210 gsm.  The prices below are for Alpha 310.
The pricing is markedly cheaper than HPR for sizes greater than A4.  First
price is without VAT, second with VAT (sales tax).  But is this definitely
the paper you refer to?


Photo Rag
A4 / 50
36.00
42.30

Photo Rag
A3 / 50
72.00
84.60

Photo Rag
A3+ / 50
115.74
136.00

Photo Rag
A2 / 50
144.00
169.20

Photo Rag
61cmx12m roll
 63.20
74.26

Photo Rag
91.4cmx12m roll
 94.80
111.39

Alpha 310
 A4 / 25
19.53
22.95

Alpha 310
A4 / 50
36.55
42.95

Alpha 310
A3 / 25
38.26
44.96

Alpha 310
A3 / 50
74.85
87.95

Alpha 310
A3+ / 25
51.02
59.95

Alpha 310
A3+ / 50
102.09
119.96

Alpha 310
A2 / 25
85.06
99.95

Alpha 310
24" Roll / 15m
85.06
99.95

Alpha 310
36" roll / 15m
125.91
147.94

Alpha 310
44" roll / 12m
153.15
179.95







From: "Paul Roark" <paul.roark@...>
Reply-To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 07:22:45 -0700
To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: RE: [Digital BW] Permajet Alpha news?

Steve,

>Just to clarify, is this the paper you were referring to way
>back in October last year?

Yes, PermaJet has a line of new papers.  Jobo in the U.S. (perhaps among
others -- like MIS) will distribute the new line as well as the older ones.
The new paper that I was most impressed with was called ISC in beta.  It
will be called "Alpha" in the production versions.  It is a cotton paper
with no optical brighteners and a dmax that rivals PhotoRag.  It did not
flake when I was testing it.  I thought the beta paper was the best I'd
printed with yet.  Hopefully the production run will be just as good.

There will also be a brightened version of this paper.


<<Permajet has also sent me some papers.  They now have a winner which was
labeled "ISC" in the box I received.  It may be the best paper I've ever
used.  It is said to be cotton, buffered, and have no optical brighteners.
I have had not flaking with it yet, and it's dmax is the best of the cotton
papers, equaling EAM at 1.67 (Eboni & 1280), and beating PhotoRag (1.66) and
PremierArt/UltraSmooth (1.61).>>

>FYI  Silverprint has it in London for all the UK guys on this forum

>http://www.silverprint.co.uk/inkj22.html

So, it looks like Jobo is just waiting for US sizes to be cut.

How do the prices compare to, for example, PhotoRag, in England?

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com 
___________________________




From: "Paul Roark" <paul.roark@...>

Jobo, which will do US distribution, just has European sizes, and those are
just for profiling.  The story I heard is that Permajet rejected a huge
production run.  So, they are being tough about quality control.  That's
good.  But the delivery is clearly not going to happen for a while.

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com 








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