Digital BW, The Print

Steve, I spoke to them today on some other matters and raised this 
question.  

The Alpha is the paper Paul talked about.  The UK sizes are available 
from Permajet, Silverprint and Calumet if you want them.  And as Paul 
says there have been some QC issues with the US sizes but they will 
be available fairly soon.

Gareth

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Gareth" 
<g.loc@o...> wrote:
> Steve, I'll post something tomorrow when I have spoken to Permajet 
to 
> get the details.
> 
> Gareth
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Steve Kale 
> <stevekale@b...> wrote:
> > On Silverprint¹s website they have Permajet Alpha 310 and Omega 
> 310.  Aplha
> > 310: A 100% natural smooth cotton rag paper with an acid free 
warm 
> tone base
> > providing an excellent tonal range. Omega 310:  A 100% natural 
> smooth cotton
> > rag paper with an acid free extra white base providing an 
excellent 
> tonal
> > range.  Each are listed as 210 gsm.  The prices below are for 
Alpha 
> 310.
> > The pricing is markedly cheaper than HPR for sizes greater than 
> A4.  First
> > price is without VAT, second with VAT (sales tax).  But is this 
> definitely
> > the paper you refer to?
> > 
> > 
> > Photo Rag
> > A4 / 50
> > 36.00
> > 42.30
> > 
> > Photo Rag
> > A3 / 50
> > 72.00
> > 84.60
> > 
> > Photo Rag
> > A3+ / 50
> > 115.74
> > 136.00
> > 
> > Photo Rag
> > A2 / 50
> > 144.00
> > 169.20
> > 
> > Photo Rag
> > 61cmx12m roll
> >  63.20
> > 74.26
> > 
> > Photo Rag
> > 91.4cmx12m roll
> >  94.80
> > 111.39
> > 
> > Alpha 310
> >  A4 / 25
> > 19.53
> > 22.95
> > 
> > Alpha 310
> > A4 / 50
> > 36.55
> > 42.95
> > 
> > Alpha 310
> > A3 / 25
> > 38.26
> > 44.96
> > 
> > Alpha 310
> > A3 / 50
> > 74.85
> > 87.95
> > 
> > Alpha 310
> > A3+ / 25
> > 51.02
> > 59.95
> > 
> > Alpha 310
> > A3+ / 50
> > 102.09
> > 119.96
> > 
> > Alpha 310
> > A2 / 25
> > 85.06
> > 99.95
> > 
> > Alpha 310
> > 24" Roll / 15m
> > 85.06
> > 99.95
> > 
> > Alpha 310
> > 36" roll / 15m
> > 125.91
> > 147.94
> > 
> > Alpha 310
> > 44" roll / 12m
> > 153.15
> > 179.95
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > From: "Paul Roark" <paul.roark@v...>
> > Reply-To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 07:22:45 -0700
> > To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: RE: [Digital BW] Permajet Alpha news?
> > 
> > Steve,
> > 
> > >Just to clarify, is this the paper you were referring to way
> > >back in October last year?
> > 
> > Yes, PermaJet has a line of new papers.  Jobo in the U.S. 
(perhaps 
> among
> > others -- like MIS) will distribute the new line as well as the 
> older ones.
> > The new paper that I was most impressed with was called ISC in 
> beta.  It
> > will be called "Alpha" in the production versions.  It is a 
cotton 
> paper
> > with no optical brighteners and a dmax that rivals PhotoRag.  It 
> did not
> > flake when I was testing it.  I thought the beta paper was the 
best 
> I'd
> > printed with yet.  Hopefully the production run will be just as 
> good.
> > 
> > There will also be a brightened version of this paper.
> > 
> > 
> > <<Permajet has also sent me some papers.  They now have a winner 
> which was
> > labeled "ISC" in the box I received.  It may be the best paper 
I've 
> ever
> > used.  It is said to be cotton, buffered, and have no optical 
> brighteners.
> > I have had not flaking with it yet, and it's dmax is the best of 
> the cotton
> > papers, equaling EAM at 1.67 (Eboni & 1280), and beating PhotoRag 
> (1.66) and
> > PremierArt/UltraSmooth (1.61).>>
> > 
> > >FYI  Silverprint has it in London for all the UK guys on this 
forum
> > 
> > >http://www.silverprint.co.uk/inkj22.html
> > 
> > So, it looks like Jobo is just waiting for US sizes to be cut.
> > 
> > How do the prices compare to, for example, PhotoRag, in England?
> > 
> > Paul
> > www.PaulRoark.com 
> > ___________________________
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > From: "Paul Roark" <paul.roark@v...>
> > 
> > Jobo, which will do US distribution, just has European sizes, and 
> those are
> > just for profiling.  The story I heard is that Permajet rejected 
a 
> huge
> > production run.  So, they are being tough about quality control.  
> That's
> > good.  But the delivery is clearly not going to happen for a 
while.
> > 
> > Paul
> > www.PaulRoark.com 
> > 
> > 
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