Hello Roger, >I just received a sample of Hawk Mountain papers including Osprey, >Merlin and Condor BW and I'm wondering what settings (paper type, >speed, resolution, etc.) you would use for black only printing with >these papers on an Epson 1280 using MIS Eboni black. Should I set >the paper feed control to wide for any of these papers? Paper Type: Enhanced Matte High Speed: checked Resolution: 2880 dpi I use the "Manual" setting for the rear paper feed. I force fed some Merlin through the sheet feeder a few times and it finally complained (refused to take it and blinked and burped at me for awhile as punishment). >Do you find that each of these papers requires a different dot >gain setting to get good WYSIWYG? Changing among these papers seems to make no significant difference as far as dot gain goes. I think the difference among papers in actual ink gain must be very little (isn't eliminating dot gain is one of the purposes of the coating?). >When using EEM, I had my input profile set to dot gain 20 which gave >too light a print when the output was set to "same as source", so I >changed the output profile to dot gain 10 for good WYSIWYG. > >You indicated that you change the input profile rather than the >output profile in a recent post. Is there any advantage to changing >the input profile versus the output profile? Yes, but you have to understand how they interact. The main thing is that when the back end is "Same As Source" (SAS), changing the front end makes no difference in the print. The purpose of changing the front end is to get the screen image to match the print. By changing the back end you are making the print match the screen image. The problem with this is there is not a direct translation any more. Neither the screen nor the print is a true representation of the image file. When you begin using other papers for final prints you often end up going around in circles trying to find settings that give what you want for each paper. It's random, time consuming, usually makes no sense, and often is inadequate with papers needing more complex adjustments than dot gain curves provide. So changing the back end during workup on proof paper defeats the purpose of having an easy and consistent workflow. The back end at SAS cancels out the front end, resulting in the image being sent to the printer without any profiles affecting it. So the print is a true representation of the file. You said your initial EEM print, with back end at SAS, was too light. That means the image was too light because the print was a true representation of it. So the idea when beginning work on an image is to make the first test print (back end always set to SAS), and then change the front end until the screen image best matches the print (for my monitor DG18 works best for most). This gives a screen image that is also a true representation of the file. So the screen and the printer are now interpreting the image the same way. From that point on, whatever changes you make to the image will show up the same relatively in the print, and no matter what other paper you use the print will always be a true representation of it, according to how that paper handles the ink. If the final print is substantially different than the EEM print, then you can either use a custom back end curve or apply a "paper curve" layer to the image in order to compensate. But this is only done for final prints on different paper. During the workup of an image on proof paper, the back end should always remain SAS. At first I used custom back end curves because I didn't like the idea of adding a paper curve layer to the image. Back then (before Eboni) I was making all final prints on PR which most of the time required no changes, or at most a slight over all darkening. But I changed when I began using other papers which often require small contrast changes. With a curve layer you can see right away how the curve affects the image. With a custom back end curve you must make a print to see what effect the curve has. I now save the paper curve layer in the file. I usually choose one paper which suits the image, so I rarely have to change the curve once it's finalized. If I ever want to print it on EEM I just deactivate the layer. In effect, with this approach you establish a standard workflow with EEM as the standard proof paper. In time you get very attuned to this workflow because there is a similarity of reaction to everything you do. You become very efficient and productive. Otherwise you end up with different front/back end settings for each image. Everything is always different and there's a chaotic aspect to the work. Regards, Clayton Info on black and white digital printing at http://www.cjcom.net/digiprnarts.htm
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Re: Question for Clayton Jones: BO with Hawk Mountain papers
2004-05-12 by Clayton Jones
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