--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "scrber" <stephen.bate@m...> wrote: > Hi there, I have just taken delivery of my 4000 and I wanted to give > you folks an insight into how I find this printer compared to the > numerous other systems I have seen / used. > > I have used : > > 1. Piezography (old version, 1290) > 2. MIS VM inks (1290) > 3. MIS UT inks (1290) > 4. MIS UT2 inks (1290) > 5. Black only printing (Eboni, 1290) > > and have had exposure to > > 1. 2200 full colour B&W prints > 2. 2200 Black only prints (ultrachrome) > 3. 7600 full colour + IP5.6 prints. > > When I saw some images I had given to Epson to demo, I was less than > happy with the output, Black ink prints were the usual dotty output > and the colour ink variants all had pretty bad colour shifts and > metamarism. I figured the colour was fantastic, the black and white > was better than my 1280 dye prints out of the box, but not by much. > I have since had a chance to play with the printer myself and it > takes pride of place in my office. My findings have suprised me. It > sits next to two printers, both 1290s installed with MIS UT and UT2 > hextones. > I had to mess around with the colour settings for ages as I couldn't > for the life of me remember my colour management basics - but this is > not the printers fault...(the MIS workflow is so different). > I have printed slightly warm toned images (full inkset), neutral > images (full inkset) and black only prints. I also printed the same > image, with matched tones on the two MIS fed machines. I laid these > all out and have asked a number of colleagues, and my wife (who knows > exactly what to look for now) which was which / which was better and > why. The results pretty much tallied with my own conclusions. > 1. UT2 inks have the smoothest highlight transistions but do not seem > to have the best definition and detail in the mid tones. > 2. UT inks are well down the list (this may well be because the > curves used for this inkset and my 1290 printer are extreme and there > seems to be some accepted variance between printers that can cause > issues with tonal transitions - I actally preferred the VM set, and > by far the UT2) > 3. The toned Ultrachrome 4000 prints were all but indistiguishable > from the sepia/warm toned UT2 prints (I had to turn them over myself > on more than one occaision). There could be a slight tendancy > towards blocking of the deepest shadows and some 'split-toned' effect > as the shadows start to block but it is minimal, perhaps not as good > for really dark prints. > 4. The neutral Ultrachrome 4000- prints were really pretty good. No, > they were not as smooth as the UT2 set, but they are acceptable to my > eyes. Put them in a print at a foot away and you'd struggle to tell > the difference. > > The big issue though is metamarism. It is still there and that is > where the difference comes between the UT2 and the Ultrachromes - the > tone WILL shift. It is not as dramatic as in previous pigment > printers, but it is still there. I assume Imageprint will get rid of > most of this, but boy is it expensive. And there is another way.... > > I was frankly stunned by the 4000 black only performance. > I have done this many times on the 1280/90 series and even on the > 2200 but was never totally happy with it. Yes the luminance, > contrast, detail and overall impression from a framed print was > always stunning, but I couldn't stand those dots. I have pretty keen > eyes and with my 4000 prints (matt only so far, Ultrasmooth and > Velvet art papers) I REALLY have to strain to see the dots, more than > a few inches away and they're gone. The prints are stunning and > everyone picked these as the best. No metamarism (no toning though, > unless you play with the papers you print on), no shifting with time > (the black ink seems to last for ever according to the longevity > tests), no colour management issues. I honestly never thought I > would go this route after 4 years of trying pretty much everything on > the market, I am happy. Incidentally, the prints that came back from > Epson were printed at 360dpi, hence the more visible dots, at > 1440+super it is great, still a grainy-ish apprearance, but I love it. > > I will keep tweaking and playing, who knows, maybe I will have a > different opinion when I try printing high key images with lots of > highlights or much smoother transitions (for the minute I will keep > my UT2 for wedding prints - very testing subject...) I will report > back. > > PS - the printer itself is fantastic, fast, quiet, self adjusting - > could have done with a 'quickstart' though - to just have a 396page > manual (all English) to play with was a little much... > > Have fun. > > Steve
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All that typing and no subject !! >> Epson 4000 report <
2004-05-14 by scrber
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