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Re: Thoughts on profiling printers for B&W

2004-05-19 by brinkker2000

Yes, I agree with you and Clayton's comments. I should have 
originally specified color casts as opposed to metamerism issues.   
The custom profiles do remove color casts.  Concerning metamerism the 
4000 prints in daylight and a light box (5000 K I believe) showed 
little difernce with my eyeballs so it's subjective.  And, thats  
what I like about the option of using both methods, you can alway's 
fully eliminate metamerism with BO. 
Steve B  

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Peter Nelson" 
<pnweb@s...> wrote:
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Clayton 
Jones" 
> <cj@c...> wrote:
> > Hello Steve,
> > 
> > >In the same vein, I've seen custom color printer profiles using 
> > >Gretag equipment which provides quite neutral B&W prints, 
> > 
> > From reading reports in this forum I get the impression that any
> > system that mixes color inks in with the black will have some 
> degree
> > of metamerism, 
> 
> . . . 
> 
> I agree with everything Clayton said.
> 
> I wish people who say that good profiles correct or reduce 
> metamerism would suggest how.   Three possibilities come to mind:
> 
> 1.  They don't know what metamerism is and are confusing it with a 
> color cast.
> 
> 2.  They just don't SEE metamerism.   Some people just aren't 
> sensitive to subtle shifts in color.    My wife doesn't see 
> metamerisms unless they are really blatant like the ones they have 
> in some science museums (Boston Museum of Science has/had a good 
> metamerism exhibit).    On the other hand, my wife is a musician 
and 
> she can hear defects in other musicians' playing that are 
blissfully 
> UNapparent to me, a non-musician.
> 
> 3.  They haven't tested it.
> 
> 4.  Profilers really DO fix it through some mechanism I can't 
> imagine.  If so, would someone please suggest such a mechanism?

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