Digital BW, The Print

commercially? In actual practice 
> - as least in the 20 plus years I've been shooting - the 
photographer is the copyright 
> owner. You are short changing yourself - literally - if you are 
give the rights away to your 
> images. ASMP and other professional groups really try to educate 
the photographer in not 
> doing work-for-hire or just giving the image away to the client. 
Listen to Keith and at least 
> join APA or ASMP to learn about retaining rights to YOUR images.

Actually I shot commercial work for about 30 years- and if you (or 
I )  worked for a commercial client thru an agency we almost always 
shot for hire- the images weren't ours. We needed to get permission 
from the client to use them in our books or advertising.it was 
actually about 20 years that work for hire became the normal way of 
doing business..there were are a lot of complaints but since the 
field was saturated with competent photogs, if you did not like it 
there were plenty of other shooters that could do the job just as 
well.