Does how long people stay in the room matter when deciding whether it is art? Does art have to involve an image? Would those have been better or worse if they had frames? BTW, Damien Hirst (mentioned in the earlier story) is one of the best artists working today. I haven't seen or even heard about the current installation and I am not saying it is good or bad, but history would lead me to say there is probably something more to it then the fact that it looks like garbage. He has been known to intentionally leave holes in a plastic box containing rotting flesh just so the audience could smell it. ((health inspectors forced him to change that particular show I believe)) So it is not hard to see why a janitor might throw something of his away. The art world is a world, it has it's members and it's history. The people that establish the value (especially monetarily) are those people. It is the same as any other group. The janitor that happens to glance at few people's stiches doesn't get to decide which surgeon is the best, the other surgeons do! The ones who deal with it every day. -mikeH --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., Jerry Olson <jerryolson@r...> wrote: > Once saw a show in the Chicago Art Institute many years ago. There were > about 20 canvases, about 4 square feet each, each one painted solid > black, no black on black images, just pitch black. No frames. People > came into the room, looked around for about 4 or 5 seconds and walked out. > > Art? > > What's that? > > Jerry > > > ternahan wrote: > > > > Steadman et al, > > > > Did you see the story in yesterday's NY Times about the Damien Hirst > > installation? > > He set it all up in the gallery street window for his new show (Martin, I > > think it looked like our studios)....they had the opening reception and that > > night the custodian threw it out...said it looked like garbage...the gallery > > owner was quick to point out that he had only "set it aside" (meaning they > > were able to pull most of it out of the dumpster)...she was quoted as > > stating that it was worth hundreds of thousands of dollars...staff was able > > to put it back together, mostly. Hirst himself thought the whole thing was > > hysterically funny. > > > > Is art in the eye > > of the beholders or in > > the gallery's dumpster? > > > > ^ ^ > > * * > > \*/ > > > > t > > > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, Bookmarks, Polls and other resources as they are often being updated. The page is at: > > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > > - Include your full name with your message. > > - Include the address of your website, if you have one. > > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep them short. > > - As the topic of a thread changes remember to change the subject header. > > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or "flames." > > - Complete your Yahoo profile. > > - Before posting a question, search the message archives and the various resources on the homepage. > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/ terms/
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Re: [Digital BW] ART-what is it?
2001-10-23 by mh@toomanyartists.com
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