Digital BW, The Print

Alan,

>I, too, had long heard the claim that PremierArt Hot Press was the same
>paper as Epson Ultrasmooth. The substrate may be the same, but the coating
>is most definitely NOT! I much preferred the results I got from Epson
>Ultrasmooth.

I'm getting different results on Epson Scrapbook than on the beta
UltraSmooth I have.  Too bad.

I've been told the Scrapbook is PremierArt 205.  The UltraSmooth beta was
originally said to be from the same company, but it was also said to be
under an exclusive at least with respect to the weight of the paper.  It
could be that the weight and amount of calendaring of the underlying paper
is what is making the difference. 

>... I found the "color" of Entrada Natural to be identical to Epson
>Ultrasmooth and PA Hot Press; 

My conclusion was the same.  I don't think I could tell the difference
between a print on Entrada Natural and one on UltraSmooth, but my wallet
can.  I think Entrada is a bargain.

>... Entrada Natural doesn't contain OB brighteners...I compared this paper
>to some EEM that had been exposed to typical inside (house) air and general
>pollutants, and found the base paper "color" to be not that different from
>Entrada Neutral. Could it be that once the OB bleach out of these papers
>that their color is not so different than non-OB papers? Hmm....

Yep, I think they end up about the same.  In fact, some of the "natural," no
OBA papers read as brighter in their "visual density" with my X-Rite than do
the brightened papers.  The OBA papers, however, look brighter in my office
(fluorescent lights), but they read as simple bluer, which the eye must see
as "brightness."  OBAs convert UV to blue light -- until they burn out.

I'm also a fan of Moab Entrada, especially the Natural.  While it does
flake, this can usually be dealt with by brushing or wiping off the paper
before printing.  I think it is among the best bargains for a cotton paper.
I've suggested to Moab that if they supply some Entrada paper to the
Anderson Ranch workshop this summer, we could make it a workshop project to
write curves for the paper. (Moab, Utah is right next to Arches National
Park, where I'll do a little shooting before &/or after the Anderson Ranch
workshop.  I'm curious what they have there.)

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com 
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Alan Huntley

> 
> From: "Michael Pilla" <mpphoto@...>
> Date: 2004/07/01 Thu PM 03:52:15 EDT
> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Best paper for B/W?
> 
> I'd like to add to this post since Entrada neutral is quickly becoming my
new favorite too. ...
> 
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, <Alan.Huntley@c...>
wrote:
> > 
> > Just last night I tested Moab Entrada Bright White and Natural 
>>gainst EEM, Epson Velvet FA, Epson Ultrasmooth, HPR, and PremierArt 
>>Hot Press...
>>, so far, I think Entrada Natural will be my new primary paper of choice.