> I hope someone, ideally Roy I guess, will add a sort of sidebar or > box on the options for measuring density well enough to exploit QTR. > When Roy started QTR, I had the impression that to do it well would > require something I wouldn't otherwise need and would be expensive. > But even if that was true then, I'm not sure it would be now. > With regard to QTR... There are a an ever-increasing number of ink curves now, so you don't necessarily need a densitometer. I ended up buying an eye-one, but before that I used an Xrite 810. I have compared my results and the 810 is fine. You have to manually type in your readings, but otherwise it works fine. The 810 was $117 on ebay. Before that I used my scanner (Epson 3200) to estimate the relative densities of the inks for QTR. That was a little trickier but in practice it worked just fine and I made good prints with a previously unsupported printer (a 980) without any real difficulty. The eye-one lets you easily make a very very good softproof that includes the color cast of the paper-ink combination. Before that I just used a dot-gain curve calculated from 810 measurements. Sure, it was not as good, but more than adequate. Before that I used a scanner and photoshop to make the curves. A bit more twiddling, but I had very a decent softproof made with a dotgain curve in PS. > > >Soft proofing and printing are both handled in Photoshop with QTR > >whereas a separate program (OPM) is used for both printing and > >softproofing profiles made with IJC. Both handle profile blending > >in a similar manner, > >but softproofing the blends is more easily accomplished within the > >print preview window of OPM. On the other hand, the use of standard > >icc softproof profiles allows more accurate proofing as well as > >image editing within Photoshop with QTR profiles. > > Probably I should upgrade Photoshop to CS anyway, but I'm still > curious to know whether PS 7 - I assume not 6? - is good enough to > make the most of QTR? > I have used PS 6 and 7, but mostly just 7. I have not upgraded to CS. They both worked fine. > And speaking of softproofing, I assume QTR and IJC require an equally > good monitor/display and adjustment of it? But again I wonder which > options are now thought good enough to exploit the software to best > effect. To set up the dot gain using PS, you mostly end up matching a print and the screen image that produced it. So even if the monitor is not perfectly calibrated you can make a usable closed-loop system, meaning that you are at least seeing what you print. What you lose is that your files won't print for someone else very well. Theoretically, this should be less of an issue if using the spectro-measured approach, but is not necessary. What I have found to be really nice with QTR is that it is a very well layed-out minimal system that is very straightforward. You need only a minimal understanding to get great prints. Almost none if there are ink curves ready for your printer-ink-paper combo. But the real beauty is that you can control the ink lay down for each channel and do whatever you want to or need. If you are willing to do a little bit under the hood work, you can do all sorts of nice things quite easily. It took me about an hour while watching TV to totally change the way the toner was being applied. I have a nonstandard inkset to minimize costs and swapping between color and BW. I decided that I wanted the LM and LC inks to be laid down as a function of the density of all of three grays, but not the black. So, a few additions in one script and voila, great toning. You don't need to be a computer wiz, nor an imaging expert to figure it out either - hey its not color ;-). Costa Colbert
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Re: [Digital BW] QTR and IJC/OPM - opinions?
2004-07-09 by ccolbertbw
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