Martin, thank you for your very detailed answer. There's a lot of information and food for thought, here, especially this pyro developer and Gigabit film I never heard about. I have finally found a B&W lab I can trust, so I'll ask them about this. Just out of curiosity, what is your scanner and how large can you print with 35mm FP4+ and (especially) TMax400? I'm thinking about 13x19, and am afraid that grain may be an issue with but the slowest film. About the sharpness of color and B&W film, this is exactly what I expected to see in my PanF vs. Supra test (I shot exactly the same scene, with a sharp prime lens), but apparently my 2700dpi scanner isn't enough. Let's wait for the Canon FS4000 and see... Thanks again, Alessandro Pardi -----Original Message----- From: Martin Wesley [mailto:mwesley250@earthlink.net] Sent: martedì 23 ottobre 2001 23.02 To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Film poll Alessandro, My personal film and developer choices are Ilford FP4+ and Kodak TMax 400 in 4x5, 120 and 35mm film. In 120 and 35mm I am also starting to consistently use Ilford SFX. The FP4+ is my primary 4x5 and 120 film. This works well for my in terms of grain, resolution and film speed for most of my work which is done on a tripod. For low light or hand held I switch to TMax400 and also find it useful for heavy compression of -3 and -4 developments. The SFX is a good all round film and lets me play with near infrared images. Very nice grain structure. I develop my film in a pyro developer of my own devising in a Jobo film processor. The results with my developer are very similar to what you would get using Gordon Hutchins PMK pyro developer. Pyro developers not only produce neutral silver density but also produce a yellow or yellow/green stain in proportion to the silver density. This gives you high lights that are much more printable as they are not composed of opaque particles. The stain has no grain and decreases the graininess of the image which may or may not be desirable to you. The use of pyro as a developing agent induces an edge effect increasing the sharpness of the negative. A sort of chemical unsharp mask effect. The stain from pyro development then makes RGB scanning a logical choice as there is meaningfully different information on the three channels. Especially the B channel. In theory you should be able to work on monochrome images in RGB and have more digital information to send to the printer. I tried Technical Pan years ago and while it is very high resolution, I did not like the tonality of the film at all. Many different developers have been used with this film. You should check out the Photographers Formulary http://www.photoformulary.com/ <http://www.photoformulary.com/> Also if you are interested in very high resolution films the new Gigabit film looks like it would be worth investigating. http://www.gigabitfilm.de/html/english/toc.htm <http://www.gigabitfilm.de/html/english/toc.htm> There is an excellent article by Burkhardt Kiegeland in Photovision magazine July/August 2001. The film is also available from Lotus View Camera: www.lotusviewcamera.at A note on using color film for B&W. Color films have three emulsions layered on top of each other while a B&W film has a single layer. Because of this B&W films tend to produce sharper, higher resolution negatives. Martin Wesley [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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RE: [Digital BW] Film poll
2001-10-25 by Alessandro Pardi
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