Digital BW, The Print

I'm sure that a lot of the clogging problems are to do with the capping
mechanism. I've just hada look at mine and both printers have a different
material for the capping pad than my old 'bad' printer. Maybe they were
changed throghout the lifecycle.

Julian
----- Original Message -----
From: "Nij" <nigel@...>
To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 3:38 PM
Subject: RE: [Digital BW] BW printing problems/ Anyone overcome these??


> Stu,
>
> Can I encourage you to try Piezo again? I know it is frustrating when it
> doesn't work for you... but as Julian suggests, it sounds like a
replacement
> printer is in order.
>
> You are right that there are numerous hints and fixes for printing with
> these inks - it _might_ not be perfect :) You will see in time that some
of
> these hints are incredibly easy (like - ensure your carts are stored the
> right way up, so the ink is in the right place when you want to use them!)
> Sure, these are things that you don't have to do with Epson OEM... and yet
> if you print alot with OEM, or with fine-art papers, or use any other
third
> party system... you will find these ideas coming up again and again. e.g.
> Other third party ink suppliers recommend carts are stored upright... even
> Epson realised they have got to do 'something special' with even their
> pigmented inks in their own printers that were designed for pigmented
> inks!!! I'm sure that in the early days, there were bum printing presses
> too... and people who thought the monks did a better job! (Well, OK, they
> did... but you know what I mean!). So, in general, it is frustrating both
as
> a user and reseller for Piezo when problems with Epson (tho' I believe
they
> are basically great printers) are leveled as being problems with
> Piezography. e.g. If you've cut matts 16*20, and then print an image that
> looks great, but it's 15.5*19 when you needed it 15.5*19.5, what use is
> that? If your capping station doesn't work properly, even Epson inks will
> dry out... etc.
>
> On the issue of paper, I think that papers like Orwell, Wells River et al
> print really nicely! And now Photo Rag - excellent (and smooth). In fact,
> the 1160 is one of the best of Epson's printers for feeding art papers...
>
> The fact is, that we are trying to do stuff now that used to be done worse
> by Iris printers et al, without the up-front printer cost of god-knows how
> much, and I'm sure Iris _probably_ offer an operator course costing more
> than your whole Piezo setup! Still, I am told they _do_ come with a built
in
> vacuum cleaner for all that paper-dust, which is nice ;)
>
> I recommend taking a day off from the computer, then returning with
renewed
> vigour and resolution to test the printer... return if necessary... and
> then... go make art ;)
>
> Good luck... I really do believe the effort is worth it!
>
> Nij
>
> Nigel Rheam
> MWORDS Limited   www.mwords.co.uk   Digital Fine Art
>
>
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Stu Rosner [mailto:sturos@...]
> > Sent: 26 October 2001 13:51
> > To: yahoo digital bw
> > Subject: [Digital BW] BW printing problems/ Anyone overcome these??
> >
> >
> > Dear All;
> >
> > I have been trying for about a year to get acceptable results making
black
> > and white prints using Epson printers and easily available paper.
> >
> > At first I bought and tried Jon Cones Piezography system, but found that
> > there were two problems that I could not get around:
> >
> > 1) the inks continually clogged the print heads terribly. there are all
> > kinds of fixes for this, revolving around soaking the pads with
Fantastik,
> > and doing all kinds of other stuff, but it's an incredible waste
> > of time and
> > money.
> >
> >
> > 2) Even more significantly, the Cone Inks do not work well with anything
> > besides a really flat paper.
> > I've found that the ink does not take to Epson's premium luster, a paper
> > that most closely emulates Ilford Pearl surface paper, a paper
> > I've used and
> > loved for 20 years.
> >
> <snip>
>
>
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