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Re: [Digital BW] Soft Proof Alternatives

2004-08-18 by Steve Kale

Carl Schofield developed an ICC-based soft proofing method that is fantastic
if you a Gretag Eye-One device.


> From: gulstenek <keving@...m>
> Reply-To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2004 05:48:14 -0000
> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [Digital BW] Soft Proof Alternatives
> 
> I'm renovating my workflow and I'm looking for better ways to approach
> soft proofing. 
> 
> Right now I create custom dot gain curves using Tylers instructions.
> I use a spread sheet found in the files section to calculate the dot
> percent from the density measurements of a 21 step wedge.  I save the
> file without embedding any profiles and use the soft-proof feature of
> photoshop when working on the image.  With a calibrated monitor this
> works really well.  If I only had one ink/paper/printer combination
> I'd leave it the way it is.
> 
> However, there are small differences in the soft proof profiles for
> each of the paper/ink/printer combinations.  If I want to print the
> same image on different papers I need to add another adjustment layer
> and go through another print/proof cycle.
> 
> Two alternative approaches have come to mind.
> 
> 1.  If I can create a custom dot gain curve for the soft proof is it
> not possible to use the same density measurement to create an
> adjustment curve for each ink/paper/printer combination leave the
> image in some common space like gray 2.2 and apply the curve just
> before printing?
> 
> 2. Can I just leave the image in some common space ( gray 2.2 ) and
> use "convert to profile" with the custom dot gain curves as the target
> space?
> 
> These two approaches seem like a color-management-lite approach but
> still have the advantage of having one 'master' file with different
> children for different ink/paper/printer output options.
> 
> Does this make sense?  Are there better options?  I know these
> approaches don't handle tones at all but I'm OK with that.  How do
> people who proof with EEM and print on HPR manage this issue?
> 
> As always, thanks for your help.
> 
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