Digital BW, The Print

Interestingly, the 20D has a B&W mode. I wonder if that does anything clever
in the actual capture or if it's all just post processing in the camera...
i.e., does it affect the RAW file? Neither of the two reviews really dig into
this feature very much unfortunately.

-----Original Message-----
From: Sam McCandless [mailto:samcc@...]
Sent: 20 August 2004 05:14
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Cc: jamie gannon
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Would like to GO BIG - Start with large format
neg?


Clayton's 8/1 post below gives us a some idea of what we can expect 
if we use one of Canon's best lenses with Canon's newly released 
successor to the 10D, which they've called the "20D". It's being 
reviewed now on

<http://www.dpreview.com/news/0408/04081909canon_eos20d.asp>

and on

<http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/cameras/20d-part1.shtml>

and I think I'm getting excited.
--
Sam


At 12:18 AM +0000 8/1/04, Clayton Jones wrote:
>Hello Sam,
>
>>What I'd consider instead is
>>trying to go up to 24 x 30 on the 7600 at 240 or 180 ppi and waiting
>>for Canon to replace the 6.3 MP 10D with an 8.2 MP 10D+ or
>something.
>>I.e., just ride Canon's digital-camera development wave and, while
>>waiting on their next mid-range camera, look for good chances to
>>improve the lenses and tripods and flashes and filters, etc.
>
>I agree.  I'm currently using the Canon 8mp Pro-1 and am impressed
>with the quality at large sizes.  I temporarily enlarged a portrait to
>several sizes in PS and printed out a section (part of the face with
>eyeglass frame and hair) just to see what the limits were.  It went
>all the way up to 22.5 x 30 at 108 dpi before jaggies were visible,
>and that only with a loupe.  Even at that size up close, to the eye,
>it held together amazingly well.  Individual hairs still sharp and
>distinct, etc (what upper limit is acceptable, of course, depends on
>the person).  At smaller sizes it means there is room to crop. 
>
>I never would have thought that a print at 108 dpi could look even
>half decent, but it is possible if the image holds together.  A lot,
>of course has to do with the lens, and the Pro-1 has an incredibly
>sharp "L" class lens.  With no film grain to enlarge, it becomes
>purely a matter of pixel management. 
>
>Here are the dpi numbers for the different sizes. 
>Image size: 3264 x 2448 
>This is a .75 ratio (6x8), typical of many digicams.
>
>Print Size     dpi
>--------------------
>4.5 x 6        544
>6 x 8          408
>7.5 x 10       327
>10.5 x 14      233
>15 x 20        163
>18 x 24        136
>22.5 x 30      108
>
>
>An 8mp DSLR image will have different numbers than this because of its
>35mm-like dimensions (.67 ratio), but this should give some idea of
>what to expect.
>
>
>Regards,
>Clayton



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