----- Original Message ----- From: Antonis <antonisphoto@...> Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2004 21:47:00 -0000 Subject: [Digital BW] dMax data uploaded: some surprises To: digitalblackandwhitetheprint@yahoogroups.com <snip> 1. The king of dMax turns out to be the Pictorico Watercolor, a thin, highly textured paper that doesn't come in anything over 13x19. I don't remember it being particularly popular, but it brought in a whopping 2.12 (when Hahnemuhle tops out at 1.66 under the same conditions ! ). <snip> This is interesting and had my curiosity piqued. However I was crestfallen to read this on the Pictorico site regarding this paper: "Premium WaterColor Card Stock is not compatible with Epson pigment-based inks." Wonder what that means? 2. A 1280 printer loaded with MIS Ebony is way outperformed by a 7500 with the same ink. Which goes to show that little desktop printers made for dyes may not give pigment black inks their best shot. Not really a surprise, but now confirmed in real tests. 3. The 2200 with the Matte Black (marked as MK in the pdf) matched or outperformed wide format printers loaded with either the same ink or Piezo Museum Black. Often it was outperformed by Ebony in a 7500, however. 4. UC Photo Black (in the 2200) outperformed the MIS UT Photo Black (in the 1160). The 1160 produced its darkest at step 23, well before the end of the 26-step scale. I am inclined to think that it wouldn't get any better with this ink on a big printer. 5. In the large format category, Ebony in a 7500 often beats Museum Black in a 9500 - sometimes by a wide margin. Photo Rag gets to 1.74 with Ebony when it only hits 1.66 with Museum Black. That same 7500/Ebony seems to produce the overall better black with the matte papers - though not always. 6. Epson papers in this test - not surprisingly perhaps - did better on the 2200 with Matte Black than on the 9500 with Museum Black. That's it for now. No Gospel here, just some initial results that I found eye-opening in many cases. Antonis Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as they are often being updated. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same page. Please follow these basic guidelines: - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep them short. - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the membership without notice. - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed from the membership. - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group Owner and Moderators. See "Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines" in the Files section: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT ________________________________ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
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Re: [Digital BW] dMax data uploaded: some surprises
2004-08-29 by Richard Sintchak
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