Bob Frost wrote: > Ernst, > > What sizes of paper do you find aesthetic? > > Bob Frost. Many sizes, depending on the image shape, but not the in my view long A sizes. While it was my choice when I printed 35mm in the past (as a student). But that was more a cost aspect, it filled the size well with small margins. With wider margins around the image the A sizes become problematic, the image shape gets even longer than the 35 mm (or close to 6x9) aspect ratio is. And I'm not doing panoramas (yet) so it isn't my choice. I used to print posters (in silkscreen) for an old designer who couldn't get beyond the golden rule aspect ratio, I assure you that that size can become boring after 8 years printing. And that size is even longer than an A size. The 24x30 cm photo paper size (ratio 5:6) etc are too close to square, while I like square again since I'm using the Iskra 6x6 folder :-) The US letter size may not be the standard, it has however almost the same aspect ratio as 56 x 72 mm (Linhof's ideal format, 6x7 in practice) is usable for 35mm full frame (or 6x9) with wider margins and I personally find its shape nicer. it isn't a photo size but the much smaller 18x24 cm comes close to its aspect ratio. Using roll paper now and the customer decides so it isn't my problem. As an amateur I don't think I use shapes that come near A size ratios or longer but I'm not dogmatic. The best rectangle would be one that gives equal margins around with every scale of enlargement, pity that only the square works like that :-) You see it is an arbitrary, subjective, conflicting mix of opinions like most aesthetic values are :-) And they change in time like they should. Ernst P.S. A sizes serve a purpose but don't add too much value to them. Lots of other sized papers available here and even in Japan that is more metric than Europe. While it is nice that an A2 can be cut in half to get two A3's and an A3 can be cut in half to get two A4's there's something odd going on. How many users actually do that ? The paper distribution chain can use that nice aspect only for unprinted stock that goes to the customer unprinted. But the printer needs a sheet that is larger than an A size for grip on the press, cutting it straight before it gets on the press, etc. That larger sheet can't be halved before the printrun on another smaller press because the margin for grip has to stay as wide as it was on the double sheet. All kinds of paper sizes that are a bit larger than A sizes available at the printer supplier and they can't be halved. I doubt that there's less waist in Europe with A sizes than there's in the US with a more sloppy standard. Small sheets usually are made of a lower weight paper than larger sheets as they are used for different tasks. When it is possible to cut a sheet in halves on its thickness the picture changes but that's not happening in my time :-) The standard is a good thing for equipment that has to work with it and a worldwide standard will even be better. But I'm printing 56x76 cm serigraphs right now on halved Arches Velin sheets of 80x120 cm on a 100x140 cm Thieme silkscreen machine. Only the last has some relation to B size (same ratio as A size but 1.4 larger in M2). Metrification of the whole world (including paper weight) is far more important than paper size standarisation.
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Re: [Digital BW] OT - U.S vs. Europe paper sizes???
2004-09-20 by Ernst Dinkla
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