On 27 Sep 2004 at 5:05, cjphoto1 wrote: > . > > > > This wasn't supposed to be a digital vs film discussion... > > oops! > Actually it can be, I started the thread, as B&W versus Colour film, but don't mind changing the terminology to say B&W versus Colour capture. > Thanks for all the info. I have struggled with many of these same > issues back in the days of film- not from a technical viewpoint, > which seems to be your strength, but from an intuitive one. Back > when I shot film, (which I have done since 1967) I would look at > Bresson's and Winogrands, and other 35mm shooters and then I looked > at 4x5 shooters, and then I looked at 8x10's etc. One could keep > going on, but at some point we have to just make pictures... it only > has to make sense to me from an artistic point of view, ie, a grainy > out of focus blurred Cartier-Bresson is far superior to ??? in other > words, the sharpness or detail or any other technical aspect finally > has to relent to the subjective artistic stuff. (Or does it?) In many cases B&W is more artistic, whether you like a grainy image like pushed Tri-X or a smooth grainless image like Pan-F. The results are what matter, however you can often compensate for some things in post processing with colour capture. For example if you want to use a filter, but do not have the filter handy, for the lens you using, then you can use Photoshop, or another similar tool, to apply the filter later on. W > > The same goes for digital. I wanted effective photographs, at > whatever res or detail, and this kodak back certainly produces them. > I was never able to "see" effectively with a view camera. Despite > many attempts through the years, both professionally and for > personal work, I could never feel comfortable with 4x5 or 8x10's. > This digital camera is relatively fast and easy to use, and gives me > images that are artistically successful. > > So what is next for the digital world? I would love to find a > digital back that was truly high resolution and 'detailed'perhaps a > cluster of these chips that I have now, maybe a 1x3 array to make a > panorama...but until then, I'll keep making images, with whatever > camera I have...I remember one of my most successful projects was > shot with the plastic Holga. > > What kind of work do you do? And what format? > > Thanks, > > Chris > > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as they are often being updated. > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same page. > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep them short. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the membership without notice. > - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed from the membership. > - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group Owner and Moderators. See Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines in the Files section: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ > > BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE OWNER AND MODERATORS OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE OWNER AND MODERATORS OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP. > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > >
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Re: [Digital BW] Re: B&W from colour (was: going nomail til this XP stuff stops)
2004-09-27 by The Wogster
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