Digital BW, The Print

Hello Ehud,

Although it is not yet available, there will be coming, probably in
november a real filmscanner (up to 4x5") : Epson PhotoPC factory F-3200,
it was demonstrated at the Photokina, but is not mentioned on Epson's
website yet. Look at:
http://www.i-love-epson.co.jp/products/scanner/f3200/

Casper Cammeraat

>>> eyaniv@... 07-10-2004 04:55:51 >>>

Thanks for the links.

At first I plan on doing Cyanotypes but I expect to move up to
Platinum
eventually with stops in gum along the way.  At the moment there are no
firm
plans.

I have been told that I will have good success enlarging my negatives
up to
10 x 12 with little degradation but that depends on my curves and the
output
device I use.  Using an image setter will not be an option where I
live.

I am now struggling with the output portion of the equation.  I can
afford
an Epson 1280 or 1290 but not much more due to the cost of the scanner
and
the fact that I just recently bought a new camera system.

Any thoughts about the printer or of a better option in that price
range - $
600.00 CAD.

Ehud
circlesofconfusion.ca

-----Original Message-----
From: Ken Carney [mailto:kcarney1@...] 
Sent: Sunday, October 03, 2004 5:14 PM
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com 
Subject: RE: [Digital BW] Scanner suggestions?



What alt process will you use?  If it is pt/pd you will probably be
better
off with high-res imagesetter negs, if you can still find a prepress
that
has that level of imagesetter and will accommodate you.  If it is a
less
demanding process, the inkjet neg will probably work fine. If it is
pt/pd
you will likely find that the simplest approach is just taking an
in-camera
8x10 neg and developing for the process, e.g., Rollo pyro.  I have also
seen
beautiful 20x24" pd prints made from 6x7cm negs enlarged to 20x24" negs
in
the darkroom (www.davidmichaelkennedy.com (the original website).  He
uses
pure palladium and double coats.  Time-consuming, but great and far
better
than any inkjet neg.  Also checkout www.tommillea.com.  He prints pt
with
enlarged negs from 35mm.  I have had the opportunity to go through his
master prints and larger 20x24" prints and they are all that one could
want.

To your question, I have a Nikon 4000ED and it is excellent.  The
latest
Nikon scanning software is very good, all you'll likely need.  The
Digital
Ice feature is handy to remove dust spots, but does not work with
silver b&w
film (only with slides other than Kodachrome and with C41 negs). 
However,
what I and my friends are running up against is that the scanned neg is
not
as sharp and clear as the image from a good digital SLR camera with the
best
glass (e.g., Canon 1dMk2).

Regards,

  --Ken Carney
    www.kencarney.com 



> -----Original Message-----
> From: ehud_yaniv [mailto:eyaniv@...] 
> Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2004 3:30 PM
> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com 
> Subject: [Digital BW] Scanner suggestions?
>
>
>
>
> Hi all,
>
> I am a film shooter that needs to create digital negatives
> for contact printing using alt-photo techniques.
>
> The problem is that I shott 35mm film and need to create
> negatives of up to 8" x 10" or larger for contact printing.
>
> I will be using an Epson 1290 for the negative output but am
> stuck on the input side of the equation.
>
> Right now I am leaning towards the Nikon Coolscan V ED ($
> 899.00 CAD) as it seems to have the colour depth and
> resolution I need for my output sizes.
>
> Do you folks have any suggestions about this purchase?  Is
> this a good scanner - in real life use?  Can it meet my needs.
>
> I am using the digital negative techniques developed by Mark
> Nelson in his ebook, Precision Digital Negatives.
>
> Thanks for any help or advice.
>
> Ehud
> circlesofconfusion.ca
>
>
>
>
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