Digital BW, The Print

Genuine Fractals states in their documentation that their algorithm works
best with unsharpened images.  That's why I use the work flow that I do.

Robert

On 10/31/01 5:29 PM, "Julian Thomas" <julianthomas@...> wrote:

> Jerry,
> I use GF differently to Robert. I spot and sharpen using Ultra Sharpen 3 and
> then save as an .stn file. If I'm scanning 1600dpi 6x6 neg, that is what I
> save as. from this, say i want a 7inch sq print. I type in 490dpi in the
> output size box. GF automatically resizes the print and then I get my 7inch
> print. I may be doing this wrong, but I can't see the difference from doing
> it the other way. I've tried it - but can't see it.
> 
> Julian
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jerry Olson" <jerryolson@...>
> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 6:22 PM
> Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Sharpening/downsizing for web?
> 
> 
>> Robert,
>> 
>> How do you use genuine fractals if you know you will be making many
>> different sized prints? Can't you just make one master file, save it,
>> and print it at any size?
>> 
>> If not, what is the proper order to sharpen files that you know will be
>> printed at sizes from 5 inches wide to 24 inches wide, and many sizes
> inbetween?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Jerry
>> 
>> My Genuine Fractals program will be here in a today, so am curious as
>> how this works.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Robert Morrison wrote:
>>> 
>>> Or use Genuine Fractals...which does a great job with this.  When using
>>> Genuine Fractals, always sharpen after you have made the final image
> (for
>>> the web or from print) with Genuine Fractals...never sharpen before
> saving
>>> the STN file.  Remember that sharpening should always be dependent on
> the
>>> size and resolution of the final displayed image.  Nik Sharpener Pro
> figures
>>> all of this out for you if you don't want to mess with special actions
> or
>>> unsharp masking.
>>> 
>>> Robert
>>> 
>>> On 10/30/01 5:46 PM, "Carolyn Frayn" <carolyn@...> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi Mark,
>>>> 
>>>> The best way I have found for downsizing large image files for low res
> usage
>>>> is to downsize in increments of 50%.  I do this in image size, using
> the
>>>> pixel dimensions, choose 50 and then Percent from the pull down menu
> rather
>>>> than pixels.
>>>> 
>>>> Keep reducing by 50% until you come near your final image size, then
>>>> resample using your pixel dimensions until you have the required web
> size.
>>>> Don't worry about actual dpi numbers as they are irrelevant once you
> set
>>>> your pixel dimensions.
>>>> 
>>>> The reason large image files reduce to blurry files if you reduce in
> one
>>>> fell swoop is that Photoshop is throwing away so much info at once and
> it
>>>> is not smart enough to throw away the right info...  IMO
>>>> 
>>>> If required I usually use USM set at 60% and .2 to .8 with no
> threshold.
>>>> 
>>>> Carolyn
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have wondered this question for years, and have never asked it:
>>>>> 
>>>>> If you start with a big scan for print, say, 20"x20" at about 240dpi,
>>>>> and then you wanna rez that down for display on the web, say
>>>>> about 600pix by 600pix at 72dpi, and you do, in one fell swoop,
>>>>> the image becomes very fuzzy. If you USM it at about 75 or 100%,
>>>>> it helps, but still doesn't look great.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Does anyone know why it gets fuzzy? And does anyone know a
>>>>> great technique to preserve sharpness and detail when
>>>>> prepping for the web, from an archive scan?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks. Mark Tucker
>>>> 
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