>Obviously you shoot everything with a hi-speed Canon and hope that you will get something, if anything! >"slow down your shooting", please . . . most competent photographers I know have an idea of what >they>are looking for, including the contrast effect (frequently part of their style). The "one" particular >effect that you speak of is more often than not the one the photographer was looking for, as opposed to >an "artiste" hacking away at something with every function photoshop has to offer, hoping to make a silk >purse out of a sow's ear. While I agree with your criticism of the idea that filters are bad because they "slow down your shooting" I think the above comment is a little unfair. The effect of filters on exposure and contrast is not completely predicaable. Filter factors are only a rough guide to the necessary exposure adjustments. And metering through a filter instead of relying on filter factors doesn't always work well because the meter and the film aren't equally sensitive to the same colors. The effect of the standard filters used in black and white photography also varies depending on the quantity and hue of particular colors in a scene and isn't very predicatable in many situations. So while speeding up photography isn't a good reason IMHO to ignore filters, the ability to make adjustments later when converting color film to monochrome images is still very useful. ----- Original Message ----- From: "bhhc" <tawow@...> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 6:53 PM Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Color vs BW film for printing BW >You can do the same >with filters in front of the lens, but filters slow down your shooting, and >make you commit to one particular effect for each shot. Obviously you shoot everything with a hi-speed Canon and hope that you will get something, if anything! "slow down your shooting", please . . . most competent photographers I know have an idea of what they are looking for, including the contrast effect (frequently part of their style). The "one" particular effect that you speak of is more often than not the one the photographer was looking for, as opposed to an "artiste" hacking away at something with every function photoshop has to offer, hoping to make a silk purse out of a sow's ear. Long live digital/electronic blather! No matter how sophisticated it becomes, it will never make up for previsualization . . . and that also applies to charcoal pencil drawings, oil painting, watercolour, writing, . . . any creative pursuit. Paul Aparycki [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as they are often being updated. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same page. Please follow these basic guidelines: - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep them short. - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the membership without notice. - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed from the membership. - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group Owner and Moderators. See "Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines" in the Files section: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP. Yahoo! Groups Links
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Re: [Digital BW] Color vs BW film for printing BW
2004-10-12 by B. Campbell
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